As we all know the NHS is to withdraw various treatments and procedures. In that light I wonder if the population should be warned that if deformed children arise as a result of first cousin marriages they will not be treated if allowed to go full term?
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harry
Oh,you mean pack is?
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Brian Gaff
I don't think that is actually true.
As far as I am aware the Hippocratic oath first says do no harm. An abortion is surely doing harm. they can advise if its early enough, but peoples choices often depend on their religion. Brian Brian
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tabbypurr
and that has nothing to do with modern medicine.
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Jethro_uk
Depends on how you view a foetus ? (UK) Legally, it's just a specialist organ until it draws it's first breath.
Otherwise we end up down the rabbit hole of trying to define when life -
*human* life - begins.
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F
Your racism is appalling. Be ashamed.
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Bill Wright
He's merely identifying a group that often intermarry. Do you object to him doing that? Would you rather it be a secret?
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Max Demian
If that was true, abortion would be available on demand (or possibly payment) up to birth.
If infanticide was legalised foetuses could be redefined as babies, which would simplify matters considerably.
What is the abortion limit currently based on? First heartbeat? First neural activity? When the baby would survive if "from his mother's womb untimely ripped"? (I've heard of the last definition proposed; so the limit would have to be reduced as treatment of premature babies improved.)
At the moment, imprecise ultrasound and dangerous amniocentesis is used to detect foetal abnormalities. Better to see what comes out and then decide whether it's worth feeding.
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I don't mind the group being identified, it's the way he identifies them. The way he splits a racist term into two words shows he knows he's in the wrong. I thought that that term went out of use by thinking people many years ago. Looks like it hasn't in his case.
Hopefully, his regular casual racism will end up with his collar being felt fairly soon.
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The Natural Philosopher
If it were a FACT that first cousin marriages were way more prevalent amongst those of pakistani ancestry, and that biuth defects were in fact more prevalent as well, would that not be stating facts, rather than 'racism'
(and it has nothing to do with genetaic 'race' but with CULTURE).
Is not racsism staing falsehoods about those of different racial origin, rather than truths about those of different cul;tural backgrounds?
Is it racism to say that Thalassemia is associated with certain racial subtypes?
Or ability to sustain high aerobic rates?
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The Natural Philosopher
Well you have to assume that harry does in fact think. I see little evidence of it.
'Paki' is as much a term of endearment as an insult, in some places.
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The Natural Philosopher
Uttely arbitrary time limits.
First heartbeat? First
Mmm.
Peopel can't live without their moral codes.
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Dave Plowman (News)
So is Turnip, I'd guess.
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Tim Streater
Ah, but latest Labour Party guidelines on racism say that it's racism if the listener decides it is, not mattering whether the speaker intended to be racist.
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