swapping loop in light fittings - grr

surprise are not loop-in.

to use a choc box properly.

cramped, & stuffed with fibreglass insulation, with no light. Bah.

Remove room's light switch and replace with a bracket to hold a rechargeable torch?

Scott

I'm surprised at that. Might not be easy but I'd expect at least an inch or so of wire poking out of the ceiling to get from the hole to the terminals in the backplate. Four sections of 5 A choc block is quite compact.

urprise are not loop-in.

w me to use a choc box properly.

e is cramped, & stuffed with fibreglass insulation, with no light. Bah.

Stick a long screwdriver up from below and get someone to wiggle it while you go up in the loft and see where it's wiggling.

Wrap teh end of the scrtewdrover with green/yellow tape for added conspinctionty.

Owain

surprise are not loop-in.

Wago connectors make actually connecting the wires much easier, no need to hold wire while screwing down terminals in impossible places.

choc "block" is indeed compact no issue there - the issue is with getting all that IN the choc "box" AND trying to get the completed choc"box" through a "just big enough" hole through & above the ceiling i.e. trying to do it properlike....

Jim K

But shouldn't the choc box be in an enclosure if you are aiming to be "proper"?

Chris

erm... the choc box *is* the enclosure?

Jim K

Oops!

Sorry Jim.

Chris

no probs ;>)

Jim K

What's the ceiling made of that a poke with a blunt instrument won't make the hole bigger? Wrap the wired choc block in insulation tape and shove it up.

Well if you want the choc block in a proper enclosure I guess you have no choice but to fit a junction box above the ceiling.

I've seen lots of pro installations where a great deal of care has been taken to keep any tails as short as physically possible. That plus not tightening the connectors properly all makes work for the working man...

My Lupines are in the garden. Well someone had to say it.

Brian

great deal of work but it is hard to understand how you work so hard..awesome

mmm nice ;>)

obviously there is a limit to how big the hole can be made to avoid having to patch it, plaster and re-decorate it.... with no slack on the cables the choc box cannot be rotated to pass back through the max sized hole (i.e. a hole that can be hidden by the new light fitting's backplate)...

mmmm that's what I'm fishing for alternatives to doing.

(NB If I end up above the ceiling I'll just fit a normal junction box as I won't need choc block or a choc box)

Jim K

is that you Phil?

You have wolf-like creatures in the garden?

Andy

Of course, the alternative is to get a light fitting that has a loop in type connection. How you can predict that without opening it up before buying is another question!

Do they exist? I get the impression loop in out is rather a UK thing, and fittings are made for all countries.

indeed, a quick google images search for ""loop in" light fitting" produced none (any different than those currently fitted) :>((

bollox to it

Jim K