Quite right. Thank God I bought a deep fat fryer years ago. I remember
coming in one night, fancying some chips and then waking up in the
morning to a strong smell of frying. I'd obviously felt tired and gone
to bed forgetting that I'd turned the fryer on - probably saved my life.
Alarms should be fine for night time too. A sprinkler system would be
more use for when you have gone out.
Ok a lot of logic in the various answers and thanks for that.
This is my situation which is probably OTT but real enough.
I am getting on a bit, nearing retirement age so not as agile as I used
to be. I dont use a deep fat fryer or chip pan the nearest is a frying
pan. I smoke but not in the house, outdoors only. With age I am
developing a greater fear of fire and my wife is much worse.
I also had an incident when the plumber was doing some work under the
kitchen floor and space was very tight, a plastic membrane(assumed, may
have been some other material) caught fire under the floor, that in
itself was not a problem as he had some water in a bucket and a
connected hose just in case but I couldnt believe how quickly the smoke
filled the room and it got me thinking as if he had went to his van at
the wrong time I could see how this could have spread rapidly.
As previously said I have smoke/fire alarms etc but just thought is it
worth adding a sprinkler.
Age is a curse as it makes us feel more vulnerable. :-(
Remember, that when a domestic fire takes hold, the heat can reach 650C
(1200F) and you can be wide awake in another room (let alone fast asleep)
and not be aware that fire has started until things start popping with the
heat - when you hear that, and you decide to have a look and open the door
to the room without thinking...that's when things really 'flare' up (no pun
If you are genuinely concerned, nip down to your local (manned) fire station
and ask them to explain the process of combustion and smoke (smoke usually
being the killer) with the options of preventing such fire, warning of one
and how to survive the thing.
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:09:12 +0100, Woodworm wrote:
Aye, anything up to a small explosion as the oxygen in the air
outside rushes into the oxygen depleted room and all the very hot
things that couldn't burn due to lack of oxygen suddenly can and
If you even half suspect a fire behind a closed door feel it first,
if it's warm/hot don't open it. Don't grab the handle either,
particullary if metal as it may be very hot. Metal conducts heat far
better than a timber door and door handles are joined to each other
by a metal bar.
I think most fire services offer a free Fire Prevention visit where
they will go through your home checking for fire hazards and risks
and advise accordingly. Don't know if they also give advice about
what to do should you get caught by a fire. Simple things can be life
savers, like not opening doors, keeping low by crawling.
I also roast lamb particularly with a decent layer of fat in
the pan for the potatoes. Not sure that's going to be a fire
problem tho given that the oven should stop a fat fire.
OK, certainly worth doing something, particularly if
either of you are getting a bit absent minded etc now.
I never have been myself and have only run out of petrol
in the car just the once, when I had picked up a couple
of 5 week old Alsatian puppys from the capital city and
was driving home with them in a VW beetle with the
passenger's front seat removed with the dogs on that
floor on newspaper.
Sure, there is always some risk in that sort of situation.
I still prefer a decent alarm system and something to use
on fires that look like a minor problem and just get out of
the house safely with a major fire tho. My place has massive
great 8'x8' patio doors in all major rooms except the bathrooms
and toilets and 5 of those in the main room itself, and quarry tile
floors, and leather upholstery on the armchairs etc, so fire just
isnt a problem in my case.
And I don't panic when something like a fire happens either.
In my opinion they are really only much of an improvement
for fires that happen when the house is unoccupied.
And it can be a real problem fire risk wise if you end up
being very absent minded and can leave hot fat heating
up till it catches fire too.
But sprinklers are the last thing you need in that situation.
The video from the fire goon was interesting tho. I should
check that claim that Canada hasn't had any fire deaths
since sprinklers were mandated. We certainly do get
some, mostly little kids setting fire to their bedrooms tho.
Sprinklers certainly would help there and I might even
consider adding sprinklers to kids bedrooms myself if
I actually had any little kids.
I've just mentally designed a fireproof kitchen in my mind.
Basically the cook has to have an oxygen mask and the room itself ois
filled with an inert gas. Ingress and exit is through an airlock.
From the sofa of Brian Gaff -
Its not that bad when you realise that few kitchen fires
are life threatening.
All you really have to do is ban cooking in deep hot fat
or just organise a situation where the fat cant get too hot
and ensure that there arent naked flames to get it alight etc.
I remember reading that in some US states sprinkler systems are
mandatory in new build houses, and that there has never been a
fatality due to fire in a sprinkler equipped house. False activation
is virtually nonexistent, and they extinguish fires quickly so there
is less fire damage and less water damage than would otherwise be the
Not sure of the economics of retrofitting them, but for new build
houses they are a fantastic idea.
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