SOT: injection process (computer)

Hopefully you're not still running the hacked 2017 version of CCleaner?

When CCleaner runs, it's doing something that Bitdefender doesn't like.

You should be able to add CCleaner to a process exclusion list so you are not troubled by this.

In theory you should be able to configure and use Windows 10 without ccleaner?

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FWIW, I don't have a great deal of trust for the spammy tools coming from the Avast / AVG stable.

In theory? I'd say <handwavy>99%</handwavy> of Win10 installs don't have CCleaner.

IMHO 'cleaner' tools are like those bottles of fuel additive sold in motor parts shops. They're supposed to make your engine 'more efficient', but you have to ask why the manufacturer sold you something less efficient in the first place. However they keep people amused who can't resist the urge to tinker.

Theo

It has had numerous updates since 2017, including one this week. Is there any way of knowing definitively?

Adrian Caspersz snipped-for-privacy@here.invalid posted

That article's a complete load of s*it. Essentially it says "Don't use CCleaner because most of its functions are in Windows 10", which is a really stupid thing to say. I mean, if it's true, then we shouldn't use Windows 10, since most of its functions are in Windows 7.

It's also full of fallacies or false statements. "Many people who install CCleaner could be doing their computer more harm than good". What harm? He doesn't say.

"If it?s dangerous for you to manually go through the registry and edit it yourself, why would you let a third-party application go in and try to guess what registry keys are unnecessary?" Because they know a hell of a lot more about it than I do. Obviously.

"When CCleaner is installed, it configures itself to load as one more application that launches when your computer starts up." No it doesn't, not unless you let it. And if that were an argument for not using software, you *definitely* shouldn't use Windows 10, because that loads a lot of software at start-up that you *definitely* don't need and which slows down your machine far more than CCleaner will ever do.

"Another thing CCleaner promises it can help you with is deleting junk files from your computer system. ... Microsoft introduced a new feature into Windows 10 ... called Storage Sense. This will automatically delete any files in the Downloads folder, temporary files, or the Recycle Bin, that haven?t been changed in 30 days." So Microsoft introduced a function several years after CCleaner did, so now we've all got to use the Microsoft function instead of CCleaner. Balls.

"By default, when you install CCleaner, it?s configured to send anonymous usage data to CCleaner. ... Considering that CCleaner is configured to run as a startup application by default, this means CCleaner could be communicating with CCleaner servers without you even realizing it." Again, if this is true it's a good reason for not using Windows 10, because that's *exactly* what Windows 10 does. And to the extent of virtually disabling some W10 PCs I have tried using. You simply couldn't get them to respond to keystrokes.

Agreed*. Final goal still relevant though.

I chose something random as an example.

It was something dumbed down for the other third of the planet. The words for the title are pure SEO Click Bait. Poor soul is trying his best, but has an audience challenged with difficult English words never mind them being on the back foot with technology. So he scams them.

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I came across a really crap "advice" website today, on a google search.

So, I'm currently fooling about with a software deployment thing called Puppet and by coincidence a headless server version of Google Chrome called Puppeteer.

And there you go, that last sentence indicated no relation between the two items. Chalk, Cheese.

There should be no need for the following "comparison" site. Is it educating anyone?

No but I've heard of the same weird error wanting when a screenreader is being used as well, and I suspect its merely telling you that some software is inserting itself between one process and another in order to do what it has to do. For example I'd imagine Ccleaner needs to manage security of some files it has to scan, depending on how you have your machine set up That does require permissions and it is probably using a bona fide piece of code to do it, but of course so would a nasty bit of software. There is no such thing as 100 percent security, its up to you in the end what you allow or disallow. Often anti virus software knows about the most common and trusted software, sometimes the routine is altered and then you get spurious warnings. NVDA needs in some software to get down and dirty to track screen output etc, on other software it uses the Microsoft api etc, same goes for Jaws and others. Ccleaner is owned by the mob behind avg and avast, so it should be safe. Brian

I always download the portable version from the official site. That means it cannot install stuff you are not aware of as it installs nothing at all.

Often the problem is third party installs. The good thing about the portable one is you can stick it onto a ram stick and run it on any computer that supports the sse2 instruction set. Brian

I think its better recently. It is certainly very much more accessible these days and my monitors see no suspicious activity from the portable version at all.

It does have some nice tools in it, though for the update tool you need to cross their palm with silver. Brian

Opinions vary, I wouldn't want any of the three on my machines ...