Well how do all the extended family over in North America manage to get 'home' for a next-day funeral ?. They can't.
Just educate your folks in Ireland to do the obvious and arrange the funeral for a week or so after the death, like we do in the UK.
And you are wibbling on about solar PV, when the original question was about solar water heating panels which don't need direct sunlight to operate.
Was it?
No, it was about solar panels, which most people take to mean PV. One assumes that this is also why they are mumbling about inverters and the notion of tying them back into the grid. See above.
Suppose you had a petrol and had run down so the reserve light was on because you were going to fill it up on the way to work the next day.
You do talk some s**te Bill.
it applies to either. you cant get more out of any solar panel than the radiation falling in it and in practice you get a lot less than that.
doesn't matter if its a black painted radiator or a bunch of PV cells.
My point is that this thread is about solar PV, not solar water heating panels, which don't, AFAIK, need an inverter nor can the hot water they generate be used to feed back into the grid.
Fuck off grand dad.
It does actually. Solar water heaters get a lot more more of the energy falling on the panel into the water than when using a bunch of PV cells to heat water.
And we weren't even discussing solar water heaters anyway, what was being discussed was having a hot water cylinder heated during the day, when you needed hot water at night.
Their both from distant climes and me no understandee their lingo but it seems like sod and off!...
That's what Ryanair told me when the wings fell off their DC3 "Not many people buy an aeroplane to stand up to -2g/+4g loadings sir, it would cost money people are not prepared to pay, and you only have the need for it once every 5 years".
I got the same response from the national grid
"Look the combination of low wind, no sun, and cold weather only happens every 5 year and people aren't prepared to pay for power stations to meet it, so we just stop supplying electricity. We are truly sorry that your mum died in intensive care when her ventilator packed up, but that is the price of renewable energy, and think: you helped save the planet"
Ford told me the same story "Look the Pinto is $5 cheaper because we stuck the fuel tank where it could rupture, catch fire and explode in a one in a thousand accident. Most people don't have that sort of accident, sir, where an idiot rams them up the backside at a stop light"
Might I suggest that you are a tosser of the first order if you don't think purchases are determined by worst case scenarios, not average ones.
I want a lawnmower that will cut the first long grass of the year as well as the average cut throughout the summer. I want to fly in a plane that can handle clear air turbulence and a massive thunderstorm as well as a smooth uneventful flight I want a car that can stop at 1g+ deceleration, for when a child steps out in front of it, not one that can only do the average braking I use normally. I want a car that can carry a half ton load or a family of four plus me, even though I habitually am the only driver in an empty car, bar a couple of supermarket bags.
When we buy a machine, it has to be - unless we can afford to buy more than one - instantly available to do the worst case.
And that's why we own it. Sure we can hire something, but it's not instantly available.
The argument that an electric car 'covers the majority of journeys' is
*utterly meaningless* if its the only vehicle you have. Just as windmills and solar panels that generate electricity *for most of the time* are also f****ng useless.Especially if it takes more carbon emissions to build and run the standby stations that the renewables will ever save. Assuming you Believe In ClimateChange?
Do you have a link for that? It sounds interesting, but I can't find it. In fact they seem to have a pretty good record.
With you there! <snip>
I've been trying to persuade my wife we ought to have another car. But not as an only one. I think a little electric would suit her fine - she never goes far, and hates refuelling. Which I would do at home.
OTOH my car has something like 170,000 miles on it, and only 2 seats. It's nice, but not practical... so a plain boring middle sized dino-fuelled hatchback or estate would be handy. Not least as it would be a spare for one of our sons who does field work.
Andy
Considering my 4kW array generates less 1kWh sometimes in winter it's going to fail to put any charge the battery for much of the year. The sums worked out ok when the first FIT scheme was introduced but only a rabid greentard would go down that road with current costs.
Fit some cameras and stream the video for cash. That will soon pay for your fuel bills and more.
That's statistically unlikely compared to an electric car that needs recharging much more frequently than a proper car needs petrol. In any case I never ever go lower than 50 miles in the tank.
That's just gratuitous abuse.
Bill
Hand waving. Typical. The fact us, the greenies want to force us into a poorer, less convenient, sometimes more dangerous life than we've so far enjoyed. What's behind this, make no mistake, is communism.
Bill
Very well put.
Bill
Why should we change our habits and sacred customs just to satisfy a few greeny lunatics?
Bill
So you don't care about SCA in the young?
Bill
Careful, you'll confuse an arts graduate.
Bill
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