Slipping a lock

[The Medway Handyman]

Very common job with me, mortice latch on internal door fails in closed position, customer can't get into bedroom/lounge/etc. Good little earner.

I've always sorted it by prising off the slam strip and slipping the catch with a hacksaw blade. Trouble is in damages paintwork.

Came across this stuff the other day

In the past I've tried the old 'James Bond slip a credit card in', but it doesn't work. This stuff does. I've tried it on every door in Handyman Towers and it works an absolute treat! No more damaged paint work.

[The Natural Philosopher]

And now you have told the world about it...

I am glad I have chubbs...

[The Medway Handyman]

No, I've told a little known newsgroup readership. Amazon have told the world.

[Richard]

I'm fairly sure that Amazon had that up prior to TMH posting. I'm off to find out on the interweb how to defeat your chubbs...

[Adam Aglionby]

Bit over 2 mins seems average to defeat 5 lever Chubb

[Tim Lamb]

Angle grinder:-) Actually battery powered with diamond disc.

[michael adams]

They're not familiar with the Super Hans solution then ?

michael adams

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[Nightjar]

An auto-deadlocking rim lock will also resist such an attack.

[Jabba]

"Nightjar wrote

This will open one of them, easily

[Nightjar]

Indeed, but if you expected the people who legitimately wield those to turn up, you would make sure that the door is rather stronger than average.

I recall seeing one video of US Police trying to use the Big Yellow Key on a door of a suspected drug dealer. When that didn't work, they tried the windows, but couldn't get past the grilles and shutters. In the end, they had to knock a hole in a brick wall to get in.

[Bill Wright]

I put it on uk.career-burglar but apparently they already know about it.

Bill

[The Medway Handyman]

:-)

[dennis]

Any decent lock (one costing more than about £10) will be protected against that.

[Graham.]

Large sheets of mica make great Rolf Harris wobbleboards.

[fred]

Except that the better Chubbs have free revolving re-inforced rods in them. Besides whic an angle grinder is going to do so much damage you might as well take a fireman's axe to the door.

[Richard]

Yeahbut, we're not talking about Tim's door here...

[Tim Lamb]

In message , fred writes

I claim a patent on that!

Many years ago, our footpath users decided that it would be nice to kick off a fencing rail and save themselves about 50 paces. Some time later, ducking under the top rail proved too much so they took a saw to it. This potentially allowed my cattle to reach a busy road and the top rail was replaced with a length of 3" galvanised steel pipe. To discourage hack sawing, a free rotating length of 2" pipe was hidden inside:-)

[fred]

In article , Tim Lamb writes

I had forgotten you had bother with those sorts . . . . .

Top marks for the ingenuity with extra points for showing off with a 3" outer :-)

The hardened rollers in the bolt aren't unique to Chubb[1], they've been pretty much adopted as standard on all BS3621 locks. Not that it makes much difference these days, they were intended to protect from hacksaw attack and a thin disk angle grinder will take them out in short order[2].

[1] try finding Chubb for sale these days, you'll get redirected to Union, another Assa-Abloy assimilation, except for specialist locks. Nothing against Union though, still good quality. [2] not really giving anything away there, more encouraging people to put more barriers in the way of the bolt to slow things down

[Tim Lamb]

In message , fred writes

An answer to that might be an aluminium cover. The usual effect of trying to angle grind the stuff is smeared/melted aluminium clogging the abrasive.

'king expensive!

[fred]

In article , Tim Lamb writes

Lots of options available, mine is a multilayer approach, storm/porch doors with light security but alarmed with a transponder so that there is an alert before the proper attack starts.

Behind that, by all means use Alu reinforcement in your door stops. For a city centre app I have routed out a bit of the door stop to accommodate a 20mm steel angle and it made me feel a bit better about the installation.

Solid state shock sensor on the door jamb too for early notice of an attack but I realise the needs in the stix are different from the needs in the city.

I used Union even when Chubb was available and was perfectly happy with the security and value. One exception was when I wanted restricted keys which was only available on the Chubb.

I've also used a couple of 15quid budget BS locks to protect a tough door, they'd passed BS so will take a bit of abuse and the boxes have been ticked for the insurance company.