Short shaft Philips

Feb 13, 2026 Last reply: 5 months ago 11 Replies

I have some air vents that are under a ledge such that I have barely



2" to squeeze into to get at the screws and they are such that a normal screwdriver will not engage.

I've tried just the Philips bits from a screwdriver set and I have a very small ring spanner that fits but it is quite a slow procedure.



The Philips bits are either just too big or just too small to fit in my ratchet ring. What would be a good way to "jam" the bit into the ratchet ring spanner?



You can get a ratchet handle designed to hold the standard 6mm hex bits, the handle is at 90 degrees to the bit.

They had them in Lidl last week for a few pounds, with a set of bits.

That should fit with space to spare.

I’m still kicking myself for not getting a set but I got distracted and put them down to look at something Senior Management asked me about…

Something like this, perhaps?

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Nick

This sort of thing?

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Yes, although I think the Lidl one had more ‘bits’ and, was of course, cheaper.

Probably cheaper still from AliExpress...

Come on, surely you have more hex bits than you know what to do with. Every kind of tool seems to come with some.

Then you purchase a cordless impact driver and find that most of them seem to be made of some soft cheese and you have to buy some better quality bits. For the impact driver I have only purchased PH1, PH2, PZ1 and PZ2 bits rather than the 20 different types of others I've acquired over the years.

I've got a couple of low profile ratchets that directly take 1/4" hex bits, they usually do the job. One time that I had to undo some bolts in a *really* tight spot, I found this set

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but it turned out I got them undone done without, so that item has lived in my amazon wishlist ever since ...

Having gone a lifetime with needing one I was hoping to adapt a solution, instead I have ended up with yet another one-time tool cluttering my toolbox, though I doubt that I could have gone cheaper at £3.95:

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(they are only little wood screws)

I had just enough room to be able to hold a finger over the head, and I'm thankful for this suggestion but it was still a pain, exacerbated by the fact that I also had to remove a section of PVC guttering. A

10min job turned into a 100min job.

Nature abhores a 10 minute job. They're a theoretical ideal which doesn't exist in the wild.

When the turbo hose on my Freelander TD4 split (again) I took a screwdriver and drove to the local dealership, complete with fawning salesmen, plush carpets, a coffee machine and a parts department.

I bought the hose and fitted it an about 5 minutes. Then I walked back n, hand covered in black oil, and said 'do you have a washroom?' expecting a mechanics hand cleaning room with Swarfega etc.

Instead the chief poof pointed at the customer toilets area and said 'use that'...

so with blackend hands & filthy jeans, I did.

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