Shallow Switch Box

The last time I noticed (my local) B&Q had wooden plinths in with the general electrical fittings. They should do what you want.

MK certainly used to do an open frame that would do this - perhaps with some modification. I've not got an MK cat to hand, though.

Was larger than 5mm IIRC if this matters.

IMHO If its in and working then leave well alone, the PVC can handle a fair bit of heat.

I have seen clear plastic plates which some peple use to protect rhe paint/paper around swithces (look a bit too much like a guesthouse to my taste). These will give you a bit of clearance. You may need to legthen the mounting screws if you do this. Socket ones might be just right but check they wont hit the back of the back box before they do up.

Thanks Ed. With a bit of trimming of the earth wire (box to brass plate) and some tidying of the wires I have managed to get it fitting to my satisfaction. The shallow box was about 4 mm back from the face of the plaster. It was the number of wires and the limited space that was the source of the problem.

What a F*CK**G stupid thing to say, even a lethal fault works OK until it kills....

Think about it, assuming you have half a brain to do so. :~(

The switch should have come with a spacer to allow this to happen. Have you still got this part ??

With the greatest of respet Ed, you are wrong,the switch is missing a part that should have been fitted.

A _very_ ancient catalogue shows list no. 2134 as 18mm deep. No idea if they still do it or not.

With the greatest of respe(c)t Stephen, we have dimmers throughout our house, (in other words I have bought 10 or so of them) and I have

I had exactly the same problem a while ago, and none of the dealers I asked knew of any spacer, so I bought a blanking plate and ground out the centre bits with a Dremel. Because the plate is slightly tapered there's a bit of a mismatch around the edges, but it doesn't look too bad - it'll do until I source the "real thing"!

Just been to the van to check my stock of MK dimmer, and all of them have this 4mm spacer to enable safe connection onto a plaster depth back box. I do however my my stock from wholesalers rather than sheds, and it is always as a minimum MK logic Plus. So either you have not ben supplied that part as part of your pack, or your have not fitted MK logic.

And fo the record I think Mr Sirret should stick to gas if that is the quality of his electrical advice.

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Stephen Dawson

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Guys - believe me I wouldn't have posted the question if there had been a spacer - and I made sure I had a box that hadn't been tampered with.

My dimmer is a MK Brass Double 2 Way K5307RPPBS]

By the way - wouldn't it be better if there was a shield behind the box lugs to prevent the wires getting behind the lug and then getting damaged by the screws.

And I need to use my spell checker more often.

Well that is a sure sign that the backing box is over-crowded then.

Please learn how to post correctly, the following URL might help,

You also need to learn to edit un needed text from your replies too...

And that clarifies the mystery, the insert is not include with brass fittings. The MK instructions say the back box should be min 25mm deep, with

Out of interest, I can't find the part number but is it a Savoy Plus dimmer ??

Regards

Steve

The instructions appear to cover Albany, Chroma, Savoy and Grosvenor.

No useful information on the box (Just "Brass double Two Way") so it is impossible to read the spec without opening the pack.

And get your delete key fixed.

First, what depth box are you using? Second, were there any instructions about the depth of box needed?