septic tank replacement

[Peter Crosland]

And by so doing both you and the farmer have committed a criminal offence! You could well get a large £500 plus fine for it.

Peter Crosland

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In article , Peter Crosland writes

Who are you replying to Peter?

[Mike]

The planning authority.

[Mike]

Since some have fifty years of life left in them I don't see how they'll enforce this. Also if they won't allow reed beds and powered solutions aren't appropriate where you live, there isn't much left other than a septic tank.

[John]

Don't you think any farmer with half a brain would simply pump the shit over his muckpile far from the madding crowd? His chance of being found out are somewhere approaching zero. Even with the threatened satellite observation of his lands he only has to do it with a decent cloud cover - not hard in the uk is it?

[John Anderton]

You're not seriously expecting a sensible response from the powers that be are you ? :-)

I fully expect to be told in 2015 that, despite having nothing nearby that could conceivably be impacted by the discharge from my (modern) septic tank, I will have to fork out serious money for a fully functioning mini treatment works costing tens of thousands of pounds to cope with the excretions of one human being. (Obviously the excretions of the thousand or so foxes, badgers, deer, cows, pheasants etc. etc. etc. in the vicinity are not a problem !) Either that or I'll be forced to use a cess pit.

[Peter Crosland]

I was replying to the suggestion that you get local farmer to empty it.

Peter Crosland

[Peter Crosland]

A fully installed mini treatment plant that will serve a household of six people is around £7,000 not the ridiculous figure you suggest.

[Mike]

Is 2015 a particular date of some legislation I need to be aware of, or just an arbitary date ?

[Mike]

But it still needs power. It would often cost more than that to get power to it.

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In article , John writes

Possibly but not if they are licensed to carry out such work, they perhaps wouldn't risk their license

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In article , Peter Crosland writes

My local farmer was a licensed council waste disposal service provider as many of them are if they have the equipment, its a nice little earner.

[The Natural Philosopher]

By law it must be no further than 35m form the house. You have to dig a trench for the drain anyway, the armoured cable goes in it as well. No modern house would be allowed a toilet without electricity for a fan.

So where is this extreme expense coming from?

AT MOST it would cost about 150 quid for a bit of cable.

[Mike]

Mine is a good hundred metres from the house. It couldn't be any nearer as the outflows would be attempting to go uphill ! And we are talking about the enforced replacement of existing septic tanks so the drain is already there. But a trench would have to be dug for the cable. This can run into thousands no sweat.

[Owain]

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote | > But it still needs power. It would often cost more than that to get power | > to it. | By law it must be no further than 35m form the house. You have to dig a | trench for the drain anyway, the armoured cable goes in it as well. No | modern house would be allowed a toilet without electricity for a fan. | So where is this extreme expense coming from? | AT MOST it would cost about 150 quid for a bit of cable.

That assumes the house has electricity to start with. Gas lighting still AFAIK satisfies B Regs for a fixed lighting installation, which must be provided in dwellings.

Owain

[Mike]

observation

Also human waste is quite noticeably different to that of farm animals so anybody passing would notice.

[The Natural Philosopher]

I can dig and refill a 100 meter trench in a day with a mini digger hired for 150 quid. And at most I would expect to pay someone else 150 quid to drive it.

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[Mike]

No you can't. The BCO has to come and inspect it once it's dug and filled with gravel and that typically takes 2 days for him to turn up :-)

[John]

You are trying to create a problem where one does not exist. "Far from the madding crowd" out in the depths of rural cropland should tell you something. Even the right to roam doesn't give access to cultivated land

[John Anderton]

It's the date my consent runs out

Cheers,

John