As part of adapting our house to include a less-able family member, I'd
like to rehang the door to the downstairs lav so it swings outwards
rather than inwards. The house is a early-80s Scandinavian kitform job,
with quite pretty veneered doors (and hinges which are easy to half
disassemble and slip the doors out of - a boon when redecorating!). And
by happy universality, the door handles are positioned exactly halfway
up/down the door, so the door side of the hinge can be left as is with
the door flipped over.
What I don't know about till I try separating a possibly solid bit of
wood is the rebate on the door frame. Is this likely to have been
machined out of a single lump of wood, or is it much more common for
the bit of the frame against which the door shuts to be a separate
lath, nailed into place during construction? Obviously, I'm not looking
for an authoritative answer, just any experiences both in general and
(if I'm really lucky) on Swedish-plan early-80s kitbuild hice ;-)
If it's a solid lump, it'll need careful surgery with a sharp chisel
and a spare hour or three (boo hiss), whereas if it's nailed on it'll
be 15 minutes or less with a small prybar (hooray). Any guesses from
In uk.d-i-y, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Prompted by this tip, I bothered to look more closely, and am happy to
report that it's (almost certainly) nailed on. The elaborately moulded
frame surround is mitred at 45 degrees, while the two bits which make
the door mount itself (a deeper bit which runs front to back, and a
narrower one which makes the doorstop itself) are butt-jointed, so they
can't be part of the same lump'o'wood as the main surround.
Thanks again to all - Stefek
I would very much doubt if it's beenmade from a single piece of wood. (a)
the cost of the timber would be greater and (b) there would be considerable
cost in machining. Much simpler and cheaper to make it the conventional way
with a doorstop nailed to the frame.
But I'm guessing.
In my place, all the door frames are made from single-piece mouldings.
This includes not only the doorstop, but the architraves as well.
They're fairly plain designs but are a non-standard thickness to fit
the Stramit panels the internal walls are made from :-( While Rob is
right in saying it uses more timber, the time saved on site more than
makes up for it (even if future owners will curse the builders...)
Luckily I had to demolish the walls around my bathroom when I found
water had got behind the tiles around the bath... ;-|
... so turning the whole doorframe around wasn't a problem.
In the UK, it would be 'planted on'. Much more economical in timber.
Window frames are more likely to have the rebate machined out of the
solid, since it's a smaller rebate.
However, I tend to glue these things as well as pin them. Hope your
builder had more sense.
*Rehab is for quitters.
Dave Plowman email@example.com London SW 12
Only info missing from here is whether the frame is painted or
If it's painted then I'd reckon it would be most unlikely to be a single
piece, and that a timber yard/builders merchants would be able to supply a
direct replacement if it was damaged in the course of removal. If it's
varnished, then it could be a machined piece, because otherwise you'd be
able to see where it was nailed on...
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richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk
Painted, so I'm hoping nailed-on will turn out to be the answer. For a
"normal" UK house, I'd be nearly sure it was assembled on-site; it's
just that this is a Swedish "prefab"/mainly-factory-prebuilt jobbie, and
it struck me as eminiently possible that while they had the spindle
moulder set up for the doorframe profile they might just have formed the
You're right about the 'if varnished than likely to be a single piece'
side anyway - the bottom bit of the frame is indeed varnished, and is a
single machined piece (so that's going to have to be replaced, though I
might chisel most of it away, plane/sand-with-the-unsubtle-angle-grinder-
fitting-wood-reshaping-flapdisc, and nail a nice bit o' pitch pine of
the right shape over the previously-lower side).
Thanks to all for your advice - Stefek
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