Re: OT: Matt Ridley on energy

Sep 29, 2021 Last reply: 5 years ago 11 Replies
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newshound snipped-for-privacy@stevejqr.plus.com> wrote


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>>>> A pretty good summary of what many of us here seem to think. But
>>>> this is spreading the word to Daily Mail readership.
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>>> It's a hopelessly muddle piece, full of half truths and
>>> innaccuracies. Take a closer look:
>>>
>>> The UK could on its own reduce world emmissions by 1% by going net
>>> zero - I am impressed if this is true (which I doubt) but somehow
>>> trying to persuade other countries to also commit is a waste of time?
>>> duh! Muddle headed!
>>>
>>> "the only way to make renewables reliable is to back them up,
>>> expensively, with some other power source" - this is just wrong.
>>> Wrong because Ridley doesn't know about other ways to store energy
>>> (esp making hydrogen)
>
>> What? You have to make, and store the hydrogen, and then run it
>> through fuel cells or burn it in a CCGT. What is this if not a back-up? >
> A stupid way to do things instead of using nukes.
>
>> and doesn't understand what can be done with other techniques
>>> of insulation, thermal mass, off peak charging etc.
>
>> Insulation and thermal mass help with domestic heating. They literally
>> do not keep the lights on, or maintain any other near-essentials. >
> But they do massively reduce the load on the network.

Massive? IIRC domestic heating is about 15% of UK energy use.

Indeed. people always talk about 'powering 20,000 homes' and other bollocks, and people don't realize that since electricity is NOT used to heat homes, homes actually consume remarkably little electricity...

newshound snipped-for-privacy@stevejqr.plus.com> wrote

Not true following the ban on using natural gas for that.

Currently, sure, but that not so true of the future with gas no longer allowed for that and heat pumps used instead.

Well it doesn't really help the Ecobollox narrative if the windfarm is accurately represented as 'able to supply only 1000 homes except when its really cold and the wind isn't blowing, when it's as much use as a wet fart in the Royal Box.

Er, it's not a ban. It's a proposal, some years off, that could just as easily be reversed.

newshound snipped-for-privacy@stevejqr.plus.com> wrote

Nope, the readily available gas wont last that long.

There wont be any pipeline from russia, you watch.

America doesn't seem to have a shortage, why could that be?

newshound snipped-for-privacy@stevejqr.plus.com> wrote

Because they have lots of oil and gas under their land. The UK doesn’t.

Even the north sea isn't a patch on what the USA has.

Same with Germany, that’s why they import gas from russia..

In message snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net>, at 07:47:15 on Fri, 1 Oct

2021, Rod Speed snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com remarked:

And they use fracking to release it.

We also have huge reserves of gas under the north east.

But the Rissian financed Greens blocked fracking with a project fear and the politicians caved in.

Sorry, the question indicated above was meant to be rhetorical! And the UK does, actually, have quite a lot of shale gas under Lancashire.

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