Protrusions on gable wall

It's a very small picture.

Bill

Stopping it being pushed outward by some kind of anchoring device? I've a recollection of this being used from my youth, no I'm not 200 years old. Brian

It doesn't look like a tie bar plate.

If there was a hole behind each at some time , could it have been a pigeon loft?

I wondered about that too, but the platforms look rather over-engineered.

Alternatively could they have been supports for some sort of substantial timber frame, perhaps carrying a pulley for hoisting grain sacks on to a cart? Obviously this would have needed another vertical support, a distance out from the wall.

The end wall looks fairly original, interesting that the other visible wall has had modifications.

There's a very long thread about this on uk.legal.moderated.

Yes, that gable wall is original.

The other gable has no such features so that may discount any cross beam hoisting construction.

From the front view, one can see an 4ft square aperture that was filled in many years ago ( Area marked "A".) at

Possibly aperture " A" was most likely access for fodder or grain in the days of horses??

Same building, yes, but different thread based on different considerations targeted at people who might know something about old buildings. Is that OK?

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Common to have a hay loft over work horse stabling. Often a *bothy* as well for the horseman. Trapbarn in Hertfordshire would be the building where the trap was kept.

We used to call a room in the loft of the animal shed the "garret".

The garret was where the farm worker slept and got the warmth from below from the horses and cows. Being up there he could immediately be aware of any disturbance or distress with the animals below.

We had one on our farm back in the 60's and it measured about 10ft x 8ft.Very snug with only one small sky light. No electricity and no amenities whatsoever!. But here isn't a sky light in this building.

I thought people here might be interested in the history of the building, which you described in the other thread - hence the reference. I assumed that would be okay?

Sure, no problem at all.

I am currently researching its history but records are a bit scarce. It's difficult to do also because I'm in London and it's up in the North West. It was a builders storage for when he was building the local church back in 1829. The first owner was a prominent local businessman and also a major benefactor for the church.

We are following a few different channels of research eg UK DIY, Legal Moderated, bat enthusiasts, church records and pigeon fanciers. If we come across some really interesting info we might apply to get it listed status. That way we can put a brake on all the opportunists who want to turn it into an AirBNB . My view is that it should be made into an artisan's workshop or craft premises.

Going back to your original question about the protrusions on the gable wall, it would be good to get some higher resolution images of these with a more direct view, also preferably from a more normal direction (drone, telephoto from a distance?) so that we can see if there is evidence of an existing or previous opening immediately above the "platforms".

I don't think I have ever seen "pigeon holes" on a brick or stone building with external "perches". Which is why I am inclined to think they were there to support something in the past.

Why do so many people think that these are viable businesses for any old building? Around my way there are at least 3 petitions going around about saving buildings and all suggesting art/craft workshops or specialised food markets, this despite many larger companies going bust or shutting down when formerly operating from these premises. Often people are remembering these buildings from their "golden era" of 50 or

Good point. Maybe a better idea is to turn it into a local "Men's Shed". The idea is very popular in Oz...

This is in a conservation area of old, very small houses, all very close together. I suppose the locals would be happy enough with some nice quiet craft activities, but artisan's workshop would also include someone who does wood turning all day - the noise would drive the neighbours mad. The locals should be careful what they wish for.

Probably because before you start a minimum of £1k (and a lot more if considered a commercial premises) in council tax and the same for the utility bills.

Hmm.. I have considered this use for my 35' x 80' workshop. However, insurance cover? DC injection braking on m/cs not fitted with suitable motors. Guards on pillar drills. Not everyone puts tools back where they found them and puts right any damage. Planning concerns if anyone wants to repair a vehicle...

Wood turning is probably the quietest form of wood working.