We have a rental property which is managed by an agent.
Latest missive says that, due to recent legislation:
(1) We have to fit suitable smoke and CO alarms (smoke upstairs and
(2) We have to have an annual check for risk of legionnaires disease.
The cost isn't high but I thought I would check that this is a real set of
new legislation and not just a small money spinner.
Rings a bell. You're a good landlord aren't you :)
I *think* CO may only be needed if you have gas/solid fuel appliances.
Aico do quite a nice set of 10 year LiIon radio linked alarms. I
*beleive* these are approved to meet this legislation. Cost more, but
the fitting is trivial.
Have a look at the Aico site:
There's a landlord's section that should clear up your obligations.
Smoke alarms are now required on all floors of any rented property; CO
alarms are only required if there's a solid fuel appliance.
I had a landlord's gas certificate done a few months ago, and was
'surprised' to find on my bill that the plumbers had installed two CO
alarms in the property (which has no solid fuel) without so much as a by
I queried it, and predictably was advised that it was 'the law' now and
they were just keeping me within it. I in turn advised them that (a) it
was NOT 'the law'; (b) it would NOT be the law even in October when the
legislation was due to change; and (c) WTF were they thinking of, not
asking me first anyway (I do anything maintenance except gas work myself).
They offered to go round and remove the alarms, but obviously that was a
non-starter - how would that look to my tenants? Scheisters.
(BTW I was actually intending to install one CO alarm imminently anyway,
but that Wasn't The Point...!)
On Wednesday, 2 December 2015 06:58:34 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrot
Highly sensible even if not specifically required.
No you don't, you have to do a risk assessment.
There is a legal duty for landlords to assess and control the risk of expos
ure to legionella bacteria, but Health and Safety law does not require land
lords to produce or obtain, nor does HSE recognise, a 'Legionnaires testing
Normally there is no reason why the landlord should not carry out this risk
assessment himself/herself so long as they are competent. Usually there wi
ll be no need to employ a consultant. The assessment should be a straight f
orward simple exercise in ordinary domestic premises.
links from the HSE page should be sufficient for you to do your own assessm
On Wednesday, 2 December 2015 08:11:37 UTC, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
CO only required if solid fuel in use
osure to legionella bacteria, but Health and Safety law does not require la
ndlords to produce or obtain, nor does HSE recognise, a 'Legionnaires testi
sk assessment himself/herself so long as they are competent. Usually there
will be no need to employ a consultant. The assessment should be a straight
forward simple exercise in ordinary domestic premises.
wot e said
What he didn't say is that letting agents are a fool's choice.
On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 9:53:28 PM UTC, ARW wrote:
Sure they have, but nowhere near as many as have been killed by the applian
ces installed by charlatans pretending to be qualified. These fall into rou
ghly two groups, rogues with experience but no understanding, diligence or
conscience and builders (usually extension builders) who try solve
the problem of how to build the extension without relocating the boiler and
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