Poor design

[Sam Plusnet]

The Met's website has a "Stats and data" section.

[wrights...]

We all know why, be we aren't allowed to say.

Bill

[wrights...]

Import the Third World, get Third World behaviour

Bill

[Rod Speed]

But doesnt show the RATE, so you can't compare it with the rest of europe, let alone by city.

[alan_m]

I remember that there was one of these advertised at a filling station near to where I used to live, for night usage. It didn't last long and it was reported that it was not too good at detecting forged notes, maybe even modified photo-copied notes. It was long before home computing and printers were common.

[charles]

A number of years ago, I was in Bradford in a BBC technical vehicle waiting for somebody to come home. I was parked near a school and the pupils (students) came out in two distinct groups. One group said "bloody BBC let's throw a brick" The other group said "This looks interesting, how could we get a job of this type?"

The well behaved ones had the darker skins.

[Roland Perry]

In message <_FyrN.13729$ [e-mail], at 18:42:01 on Mon, 22 Jan

2024, Sam Plusnet [e-mail] remarked:

Unsually to replace the non-locking cap which came with the car.

[Ian Jackson]

In message [e-mail], Roland Perry [e-mail]> writes

It looks like my Fiesta is deliberately 'capless' (like this).

INNOVATION FORD EASY-FUEL With Ford Easy-Fuel it's almost impossible to fill your Ford with the wrong fuel. Our design will fit only the correct fuel pump nozzle. Easy-fuel is also a capless system, so you'll never have to handle a fuel cap again.

I guess that 'lockless' is also an 'innovation'.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Shaves almost 10p off the car costs.

I see that the Ford Ecoboost engine is getting the slating many think it deserves..

[SteveW]

Yes. However, quite a few petrol stations (particularly at supermarkets), run the petrol station unmanned and purely pay-at-pump overnight.

[SteveW]

Since 1984.

I have actually had one where I had to buy a locking cap, but that was because I built the car myself, there was no other system on the filler and it was a requirement to put it through SVA to be able to register it. I did not include that one in my original statement, because it was not a standard car.

[Roland Perry]

In message <uoop6p$1bh41$ [e-mail], at 16:23:52 on Tue, 23 Jan

2024, SteveW [e-mail]> remarked:

I rented a Ford Granada for a particular trip in around 1980, and someone siphoned out the petrol overnight. So it couldn't have had either. The first car I drove regularly was my parent's ADO16 from

1970 (it was soon replaced by an Allegro).

[SteveW]

From memory, I think it was during the '80s that manufacturer fitted locking caps and flaps became the norm.

Certainly by the end of the '90s, it was a requirement for passing the test to be able to register a kitcar for road use. Whether that applies to normal cars, I don't know.

[The Natural Philosopher]

It does however seem that Ford has got round it all. By claiming that the filler design makes it impossible to siphon fuel

[SteveW]

It no longer matters anyway, as they just drill a hole in the modern, plastic, petrol tanks and drain them that way.

[maus]

Which leaves the remaining fuel to drain away and pollute the area.

[The Natural Philosopher]

I think you should search them out and smack their botties!

[Animal]

spot welding EML in the fill tube makes syphoning more or less impossible.

[Ian Jackson]

EML?

[SteveW]

But also complicates getting the tank emptied out in cases of misfueling.