Poor design

[Rod Speed]

Neither are in Europe, stupid.

[Paul]

The gunfire in SA would keep you awake.

They love their Brinks truck (cash-in-transit) holdups.

You see, there is the movies. We all like to go to the movies. Whereas, this is real. Talk about your new-hire promotional material... What are the fringe benefits of a job like this ??? The second link is an article that explains not all the cash-in-transit vehicles have bullet-resistant glass.

Paul

[Rod Speed]

Weirdly Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are very high for europe

[Bob Eager]

Are you American? Your grasp of geography is very poor!

[JNugent]

Oh, right.

In which part of Europe are those places?

In London, it's knives, I'm afraid.

Some guns, that's true.

But knives are the murder weapon of choice.

[JNugent]

That's arranged by country.

London is a city (of sorts)

[Rod Speed]

JNugent [e-mail] wrote

I couldn't find anything that had the RATE with just London

Plenty with the number but that's not useful for comparison.

[Roland Perry]

In message [e-mail]>, at 18:19:21 on Sun, 21 Jan 2024, Tim Streater [e-mail]> remarked:

Unmanned petrol stations are quite unusual. The only one I've encountered locally is at Sainsbury's.

[Roland Perry]

In message <ZsxdS+ [e-mail]>, at 20:02:39 on Sun, 21 Jan 2024, Ian Jackson [e-mail]> remarked:

most

[Roland Perry]

In message <uojkne$8sdi$ [e-mail], at 17:36:46 on Sun, 21 Jan

2024, Andrew [e-mail] remarked:

My car has the same scheme for the ad-blue tank as the fuel (warning message when getting low, and a readout available of how many miles left).

[Roland Perry]

In message <uojhg2$87d4$ [e-mail], at 16:41:38 on Sun, 21 Jan

2024, SteveW [e-mail]> remarked:

Could we have a timeline on that?

I've owned cars since around 1975 (and before then my parents had cars) and there have been all sorts of different arrangements - from no flaps at all, to overcomplicated release mechanisms. One you even had to take the [bench-]seat cushion out, to fill the tank which was underneath.

One of the aftermarket accessories it was common to buy was a locking

*cap*.

[Roland Perry]

The speed varies from model to model, and on some is user adjustable. I've seen from 5 *k*ph to 20 *m*ph.

[JNugent]

Yes, it's difficult.

It's a bit more obvious when you are seeing the reports on TV, hearing them on the radio and reading about them in the press.

There's a case in the news just today. And there was one last week.

[alan_m]

I've only encountered one and that was many years ago when pay at the pump wasn't that common place.

I assume that in the UK the model for a filling station is to normally have a shop attached to maximise the money taken. The shop is staffed.

[Andy Burns]

I know of a couple, where the petrol station is some distance from the supermarket it's associated with, the pumps are covered by CCTV (but that's not unusual) and enabled per sale by a "remote" operative, whether that's someone within the store, or in a call-centre, or even working from home, I wouldn't know ...

[alan_m]

Possible the figure is very low when every murder is reported nationally.

[Rod Speed]

JNugent [e-mail] wrote

But that doesn't work with the rest of europe so no way to compare.

I was very surprised about Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, never had any hint of that happening there.

[JNugent]

Every so often, the media report figures put out by the Met that x numbers of stabbings / knife murders have been committed in London since New year's Day.

How "low" would be low enough?

[Sam Plusnet]

There was one somewhere on the A1 back in 1970. Payment was by inserting a pound note[1] into a reader which (we assumed) scanned for the metallic strip.

[1] Good for around 3 gallons of petrol at the time.

[Sam Plusnet]

Useful to replace the locking cap which came with the car - but was lost when the forgetful driver filled up and drove away having forgotten to replace it. DAMHIK