OTish Murder

Back in eh 60s some apprentices at an aircraft factory designed an a antitheft system for the wages van. Unless a hidden switch was flicked within 3 minutes of starting up the engine would cut out and the steering would go hard right. Needless to say they were told to take it off.

In message , The Other Mike writes

But we all know at least one who would.....

Fraud Exploder did a similar thing but using the cruise control (allegedly) Came close to killing one or two.

An event that only seemed to happen to people wanting a big compo handout. I drove one for fourteen years, over 300,000 miles. Number of cruise control malfunctions (0).

Most likely cause, idiots who don't understand the "resume" button.

Unopened bypass for a little practice?

Is that a euphemism?

Jim K

Quite possibly on the payout front!

I did at one time have a Golf. If filled with super unleaded (whatever it was called) it seemed OK much of the time. But every so often the revs would move towards around 3000 rpm - speeding up or slowing down as required and that was very unsettling. I only ever used super unleaded when I couldn't get ordinary unleaded. Once I realised what was happening I avoided the super and all was well.

I have always put that experience down to the engine management being unable to cope and switching to some "I can't handle this so I'll revert to some fallback settings".

In the old days of black and white movies that was how it was done.

Not undetected as such, but "Lamb to the Slaughter" by Roald Dahl has to be my favourite for "perfect" crimes.

All you have to do is leave the special bleed nut spanner on the bleed nut when you go out for a test drive.

After a while the weight of the spanner undoes the nut enough for brake fluid to squirt out of the bleed nipple.

After a while you run out of brake fluid........

But then again, in those days, speeds were slower and there wasn't much on the roads late at night.

Fortunately.

Cheers

Dave R

Oh, and I think they were automatic bleed nipples; the spring loaded ones to aid bleeding the brakes without an assistant.

I'm sure I read somewhere that pressing and holding the start/stop button causes a hard-wired shut-off (rather like a PC!)

SteveW

It can be done. Well known and established fact.

Obvious urban myth. How would the steering in a 1960's car be made to go hard right? No-one that had the slightest knowledge of car mechanics would be taken in by that one. Be difficult even with todays cars with electric power steering.

But then there's folks here think dealing with nuclear waste is easy.

Have you ever driven one? Ah. Another of your strange theories coming from a position of zero experience/knowledge.

Well that's the three thickest here. Speaking from positions of zero knowledge or experience. Oh but then they always do that.

Go and get a horse. Much more exciting. You can never guarantee exactly what it will do next.

The days of a steel wire/boden cable going from the accelarator pedal to the throttle device are long gone. It's a copper wire now and you are in the hands of your computer. I

Heh. Excellent urban myth The only thing is, the Citroen sinks/sank to it's lowest level anyway when the engine is shut off. Also the brakes and suspension ran off the same system.

Interestingly, you had no brakes at all if the engine was not running. Handbrake wasn't particularly efficient either.

Only the wealthy had cars back then and most people didn't know any better. And Roy Rogers could unerringly shoot someone down at fifty yards with his six shooter.

Not on my C5.

not true either

If it had rack and pinion steering, add an hydraulic cylinder from the landing gear of one of the aircraft. For any sort of steering, fit a large motor to the steering column, using a worm drive to prevent anyone from being able to resist it.

Any engineer worth his salt could do it easily, given an entire aircraft factory to play with.

The large motor would still work.

Colin Bignell