But that's not the stuff of scandal, but evidence of mental derangement.
My very point.
The whole point about scandal surely, is that it involves activities in which you yourself could imagine yourself taking part.
The whole attraction of scandals is that other people have been caught out and their activities revealed for all to see, rather than one's own.
It's an unholy combination of "there but for the grace of god go I" and shadenfreude.
michael adams
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Punk wasn't exactly bland and mundane either.
I prefer to forget disco well the standard disco anyway.
There was some vaguely acceptable pop music in the 60s. At the end of the 60s I realised how awful it all was and ignored all the subsequent s**te.
Trouble is, scandals like this are two a penny these days.
Actually it didn't then and it doesn't now. Just because "he would say that wouldn't he", doesn't mean that "he" has actually done any of what "he" is presumably denying now. It proves nothing at all.
Yes indeed. Well done Tim it "proves" nothing at all. Nice to see you putting all your scientific training to good use there.
However, what possibly 99.% of the rest of the population (trained scientists excepted natch) would take Miss Rice Davies to be implying there, is that anyone in Lords Astor's position, with a reputation in society to maintain , in the absence of any other evidence to the contrary, when asked if he knew Miss Davis, a nightclub hostess and showgirl, would even if he in fact did know her, most likely lie.
As would many people in similar circumstances. Feynmann obviously wouldn't, as he didn't care, but then he was an exception.
The frisson arose from the fact that it was evident, that given her familiarity with Astor's circle, Miss Rice-Davies, if asked the right questions in Court could land a lot of them in the shit. Only it obviously wasn't in anyone's interests to ask her those questions. Just as it wasn't in her interests to land anyone in it unless forced to do so under oath; at least if she knew what was good for her.
Basically most people realised at the time that she had no reason to lie. Whereas Astor most certainly did.
But as you say Tim, it didn't prove anything at all.
Oh and BTW Astor's barrister James Burge, to whom she was responding, was the original model for Rumpole.
michael adams
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Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't. There's no evidence either way. And what the rest of the population believes is neither here nor there.
The truth of her allegation was never firmly established. The court case ended in August 1963 with Ward's suicide, before a verdict could be reached on charges relating to ?200 Astor had given Ward towards the rent on the flat where Rice-Davies lived.
So he paid the rent on her flat, with a cheque as it happens, but didn't actually know her.
Yup. All sounds straightforward enough to me
Right. So you've been accused of something in your village of which you're completly innocent, and you've got mobs of villagers outside your house with burning torches, waving their fists and shouting at you to leave.
But that's all water under the bridge as far as you're concerned is it ?
You'll just tough it out ?
michael adams
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And those were real, not plastic ;) I do remember the music.
And the moon landings. And Concorde.
Where did it all go wrong?
Andy
Trying my best...
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Smells fishy.
No.
1960sE-type Jag, Mk 1 & 2 Cortina and Lotus variant, Ford Anglia 105E, Ford Escort,Austin 1100 and 1800, Fiat 124, Hillman Imp, Rover 2000
1970sMorris Marina, Austin Allegro, Princess, Triumph Toledo and Stag, Ford Pinto, Lancia Beta, Triumph TR7, Delorean, Rover SD1 (urgh), Fiat Marengo
SD1 shouldn't be in the 'bad' list. Stag apart from the engine disaster. Lancia Stratos. Citroen SM. Triumph dolomite sprint. Ford Capri. The fast Escorts were 70s, not 60s.
Well, quite. ;-)
Some say it was more down to cooling problems. Although the simplex chain drive to the cams isn't the most robust solution. The gear driven water pump just silly.
It can also be down to the contrast from the previous model. Not really surprising the 105E was so well received - replacing an ancient engine and gearbox, etc. The various Cortinas just development.
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