OT: "They come over here...."

Where to start :) .... Provoked by another thread....

In my local town we have barely f*ck all but nail bars/salons/tanning/vape and takeaways, much the same as anywhere else I suppose.

The locals have a mantra, "What Darwen needs is...." And another for when a retail premises that's been empty for years reopens, "Another bloody P###", but never do anything themselves. Someone I know who was always complaining about such got a big redundancy payout, he spaffed it all on a cruise.

Anyway some time ago I found myself in the unenviable position of urgently needing some soil stack on a Saturday aft so ended up in next door town at the only place that was open for miles and paid a reasonable price at a gaff run by a Southern Asian bloke, thank f*ck for him I thought at the time. There's a plumbers merchant opening in our town soon, S. Asians again, happy days, they'll be open decent hours, well stocked and the price will be right.

So I don't know what people want. They don't want 'these people' 'taking over', but they are , they take on all the empty retail space, they work hard, they're all over the councils etc while the indigenous Brits are sat on their arses, complaining.

As some know we have an opticians, my kids piss and moan about how much optometrists earn vs how much I pay them (again, almost all optoms are S Asian), i've told them to go and train but yeah, right. Similarly i'd walk to work on a Saturday with the dog, and i'd walk past a car wash place, bustling with them working their way through washing a queue of cars and i'd wonder what mine were doing and i'd realise, they'd be at home in their onesies playing on their Playstation or X box. I'm not sure what the point of this rant is but Christ, most of the indigenous are lazy and entitled and if the country is 'taken over' its on them. And potentially deserved.

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R D S
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so true.

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critcher

On 09/07/2022 14:44, R D S wrote: ...

Around here, several of the eye clinic specialists seem to be Iranian, although one was German and another Greek. My optician is Romanian.

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Colin Bignell

My regular dentist is UK born of Indian Parents; the specialist who fitted my dental implants is Swedish

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charles

I was visiting Australia 10 years ago staying in a way-out Sydney suburb. I had decided that my hair was approaching the comb-over state.

It was time to it have cut close to the head.

I visited a local barber and described what I wanted.

He replied "I make look 20 years younger but if you want more I charge you extra."

He was Syrian. Smashing guy.

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pinnerite

Too true, unfortunately. About 20 years ago an hotel in mid-Wales was short of staff; locals too lazy to work there and foreign (not English etc.) in short supply. I said to an Indian woman who ran a shop in the next village that my local pub needed Indians to run it, as it could do with a coffe shop and PO. She said that Indians are shopkeepers and not publicans. Shop has now closed - pity that, as I did rather fancy her!

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PeterC

Yesterday, I was listening to a story about Modi, the PM of India, saying that they needed to reform the Indian education system. The basic argument was that it was designed during rule by the British Empire, to create a "servant class", bureaucrats and shopkeepers. In future, he wanted the education system to serve India's needs.

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Not to worry, we'll all be dead by the time it feeds through the system. Anyway, hip hip hooray for the glory of the Empire, God save her Maj!

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Pancho

It isn't very surprising that those who are prepared to move halfway around the world have far more initiated and are prepared to work a lot harder than those do don't.

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zaq

Unfortunately, very true.

The drive has been educated out of the locals.

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Richard

"We should not just produce degree-holding youth but make our education system such that we create human resources that are needed for the country to take it forward."

So "servants and shopkeepers" need degrees do they? What are "human resources that are needed for the country to take it forward"?

All just mindless politics.

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Max Demian

When we get a universal basic income we'll all be able to give up our boring jobs.

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Max Demian

Chuckle. This has nothing to do with race, its the mindset. Its also nothing new. Back when I first went to work in the mid 60s, most of the workforce at the TV Factory in Chessington were dark skinned and mostly Jamaican or similar. Many were well educated but could not get a well paid job due to prejudice. Our company bussed them in from places like Brixton at the time. Many were on piece work too which was in my view unfair, but the only way we could make TVs was to be using cheaper labour. When we started to get fairer legislation about exploitation, firstly all the work was moved to a town in the north where wages were lower, and then of course aboard. Now throughout these times there were a lot of capable people in this country on the dole, and yet these people from Jamaica were happy to do the jobs. I was happy to do the jobs, because as a partially sighted person I too had been the victim of prejudice. Event some of the more intelligent Jamaicans managed to get jobs with more pay, and so did I but what we and I suspect you are seeing is a continuation of the same mindset that says, they are willing why would I bother when the dole will support me?

You can understand why the benefits system has so many hoops to go through really, though in the case of disabled people in my view, its a scandal, they should be spending the money wasted in chasing them into getting and supporting employment. What to do about the lazy people? Well they are not just the English, these people are in every town and always have been. If the answer was simple, why has nobody fixed it? Brian

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Brian Gaff

That's what illegal immigrants are for.

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Max Demian

Entering the workforce is great.

You will go places and meet people.

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That's how you learn whether you have the voice for opera.

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The jobs market is entirely unattractive. Much more unattractive than when you were a young person. No job offers more than 20 hours. If you're a faithful worker, you show up for work every day, you get your hours cut back. For example, 20 hours of work a week, to 10 hours of work a week. They did that to my brother.

I don't think it's fair to say "drive has been educated out".

If you make work-life a living hell, you get a result. it's that simple.

For some, they have to live a communal lifestyle to make ends meet. Several chip in on rent (otherwise rent would use 75% of their take-home pay). Sleep on the floor in sleeping bags. Go to work for 20 hours or 10 hours. And so on.

I don't doubt that some people are lazy, or full of drugs.

But the system still sucks, and was carefully engineered by our society, to grind people into dust. So the ones that could have worked, are not attracted to the "benefits plan" it involves.

But the employer is getting labour, at absolutely the "lowest sum that the law allows". And yet they would complain "we are short 80,000 employees, please grease the rails and feed us more rats, er, educated motivated fresh cheap young people willing to work 10 hours a week". The part-time economy. Who needs pensions, anyway. A part-timer doesn't get a pension. A part-timer gets the shaft.

Paul

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Paul

Many are 2nd / 3rd generation.

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R D S

Many are 2nd / 3rd generation.

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R D S

The gf had brought up the laziest useless waste of space 18 year old I have ever met.

And that includes ALL the apprentices I have met.

If I say anything to him or about him she defends him and says I am picking on him. He would last 5 seconds if he started work with me - or as long as it would take me to punch in the face and tell him to f*ck off.

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ARW

For most here, that's call a pension. And they still moan it's not enough.

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Fredxx

The tax rules are such an employer doesn't get to pay employer's NI for part time workers. It encourages P/T working.

A result of means testing. Grind the ones down who want to make things better from themselves.

The expansion of the EU did the most damage.

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Fredxx

<shrug>

I used to like my job...

...parts of it at least.

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JNugent

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