OT next financial crash end of October?...

Here's your chance to own a Porsche/Merc./Ferrari on the cheap!

no thanks

Chuckle. However think of the issue of those employed in the car industry? With the current push to get people to cycle and walk by blocking streets etc, many will say, we don't need a car, we will hire one if we are going on holiday. Brian

Directly and indirectly, like the small companies making specialist parts or using specialist processes.

Townies might if they live close enough to their work place(*) and shops to walk or cycle. Public transport is sort of regarded as a last resort.

It'll be interesting to see how many abandon walking/cycling and return to their cars when the weather turns a bit wetter and colder or even, shock horror, when the odd snowflake falls.

Not having a car is not really an option for those living outside of the towns in rural areas.

(*) If they return at all, for a lot of people shuffling bits of virtual paper there is no need to return on the old M-F 9-5 basis.

spot on spesly in the near of scotland ...

Wandsworth council have just announced scrapping their low traffic areas round the A24 in Tooting. Due to the extra congestion it has caused. After only a couple of weeks - the trial period was going to be 6 months. Next thing will be Khan being forced to scrap the fenced off cycle lanes on the A24 - which mean buses block the road when stopped. And traffic can't pull in to let emergency vehicles past. With one of the largest hospitals in London being just off the A24 in Tooting.

Those who want to cycle already do. Causing near permanent traffic jams on the main road makes it even less pleasant for pedestrians to use due to even more pollution. And cyclists have been complaining about the worse air quality too. Not that there are enough of them to need a full width lane to themselves anyway.

cycling to school in the early 1950s showed how many hills go to make up Edinburgh

I see on today's news 4 sections of English motorways are going to be limited to a maximum of 60 mph 24/365 to reduce the high levels of air pollution. The last time I travelled on one of those sections I guess the high level of air pollution was beacause we were all travelling at an average of 20mph start/stop.

Despite the fact that air pollution hasn't improved significantly during lockdown with much reduced traffic. You couldn't make it up. Pollution is just an excuse for the hard left agenda when it comes to road planning.

Not according to No.1 Daughter in Sheffield. Much less haze, less stink of fumes, less irritation of throat.

Even we noticed an improvement in clarity.

Have you got any evidence? What I've seen suggests otherwise:

Yes, I'd say that too, especially around the pinch points. In fact it's just common sense - fewer cars, less pollution?

I'd say you just have. Lots of reports of reduced pollution in cities.

London is full of snowflakes too

Before lockdown I was considering buying a sensible car for the commute. My nice car now has 175,000 miles and is 20 years old... As my commute is now about as many metres as it used to be miles I didn't. Sounds like perhaps I should!

Andy

For rather different reasons, I too am in the market for a car.

My wife: shopper, cook, organiser and otherwise important person has developed a painful knee due to wear and tear of cartilage.

Gear changing on her diesel Fiesta has become an issue. Most of her mileage is local so we have started looking at all electric!

Prices are a bit of a shock!

Never heard of autos? ;-)

yes people will spend a fortune to try and save money .....

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Yes. I don't like them.

Having just been robbed of £160 for daring to briefly touch your ILEZ in a Euro 5 diesel and having family living there, I think fully electric makes some sense.

my auto diesel don't pay ILEZ charges. Obviously has a better engine, but I'm thinking of electric since most journeys don't seem to exceed 15 miles each way, nowadays