OT: my broadband

If there is BT in the exchange then there can be several ISPs to choose from. A lot just use BT kit and back haul. A few install their own kit. If there are no ISPs prepared to offer a service at your exchange its because there is no money in it and you are getting a subsidised BT service so be grateful.

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dennis
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Who are fibre to the cabinet but it does the rest of the way on co-ax which seems less "lossy"....

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tony sayer

They sometimes will if theres a few subs to make it worthwhile, problem is finding the right person to speak to;(...

Reply to
tony sayer

Yup, that's a significant reason why we will move over soon once the FTTC install in the village goes live.

We have about 10mbs on ADSL at mo (and about 1.2 down, on Annex M), though even that struggles sometimes with multiple users in the house, But I really would like a faster upload speed.

We have online backup, lots of photo and video uploading, I'm setting up a minecraft server for the youngest and that could do with better upstream speed as well I think when a number of people are on it

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chris French

OK, thanks. It's a long time since I had to do any of that, and things have obviously moved on a lot. :-)

Reply to
Mike Barnes

Anyone running payroll with real time filing. End of year PAYE filing VAT and Corp tax heading that way.

Its only a matter of time before things like personal tax returns will be online only.

Just keeping a modern PC patched to an adequate state to be safe online, pretty much dictates BB these days. Software patches, AV updates etc are frequently 100s of meg per day now. Hence the first several *hours* of a dialup connection would be pretty much swamped with such traffic.

Loading the gmail main page gets you over 1 meg of javascript etc.

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John Rumm

AISB, all part of God's punishment for using Windows. There's no *law* that mandates that you have to.

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Tim Streater

Assuming you mean "have to download updates" rather than "have to use Windows", then no - none, apart from basic common sense.

Reply to
Adrian

Use a Mac?

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Mike Barnes

Basic common sense would tell you not to. That's my point. There's only one piece of MS software I run for which there is no Mac equivalent (one written by MS, I mean). That is Publisher, which I run in an XP virtual machine. Once I had it set up and updated to some level, I disabled the virtual network interface within it, so I just run Publisher in it. So there are no XP updates, no virus software, and no viruses.

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Tim Streater

Unless you need to run software that is only available on that platform. Sure you can visualise it, but even virtual machines need updating.

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John Rumm

In reality this is basically an extension of the old security through obscurity argument.

Mac applications (Firefox, Safari, Thunderbird etc) get, and require much the same update cycle as their PC counterparts to remain secure. (Note that most exploits these days target the application stack and not the OS directly). OSX itself is only reasonably secure if in its latest incarnation ("Service Packs" that Apple expect users to pay for).

Mac viruses exist in fewer numbers largely because the small user base does not warrant the development effort. But is anyone seriously green enough to believe that this situation would remain unchanged if the market shares were reversed? Sure, Windows was a stinking pile of monkey vomit security wise (and in many other ways) once, but security wise has come a long way since.

Online security also extends further than just protecting the platform you are using for access. Phishing attacks, XSS, MiTM attacks, ID theft etc not something any class of OS user is immune from.

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John Rumm

Sounds an ideal setup for radio via microwave linking. Use 5.8 Ghz point to point equipment will work well unless you have a lot of trees around and in the way...

Have a look around on this site..

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tony sayer

Your definition of basic common sense is about as dangerous and wrong as can be.

Yes, well...

Oh, dear lawd. Please tell me that's ONLY so that you can import .pub files and re-save them into something that isn't quite so insular?

Because it doesn't connect to t'internet at all. That's what's really protecting that VM. Let's hope nobody comes up with a vulnerability within the .pub file format, eh?

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Adrian

+1

For me its corel draw and RhinoCad.

No need for either of them to see the internet.

And if they get corrupted I just retire to last snapshot. Data is not held within the Windows environment so I dont lose any.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

Er no, they don't. Not if they are working OK to start with.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

Er no, it isnt.

Not in terms of WINDOWS malware.

That simply doesn't get a look-in

Two pints. first of all the damage done by malware is less on a *nix based stack due largely to its fundamental architecture.

Secondly, in the Linux community at least updates are out as soon as a problem is identified and fixed and are so easy to apply there is no reason not to. AND they are free. Its so much less hassle than upgradiing a major windows or mac release.

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The Natural Philosopher

If you're talking about OS versions, then one is not under any obligation to upgrade. SWMBO is still on 10.6, I'm on 10.8. Apple continues to provides security updates for some time (like, a number of years) after a new version comes out. If I go to the next version, it will cost me £0. The previous one was £13 or so.

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Tim Streater

I don't know where you get the idea that it's a hassle to upgrade the Mac OS version. Just update over the one that's there, that's all I've done for the last two versions. And no, I didn't bother to make a backup.

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Tim Streater

Such as what? It means I can use templates provided and work on files with colleagues. Personally I'd rather use Pages, if I had the choice.

Oh, is *that* what happens when I pull the plug. Gee, I would never have known.

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Tim Streater

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