OT: BEIS announce closure of solar panel export tariff

Perhaps they can move to a system where if they want a grid tie for their generation system they have to pay the grid if they can't deliver power at a constant rate. That way it will compensate the grid for the extra instability they cause, and the increased dependency on gas power generation to balance things they force into the system.

What will happen is that local switching services and storage will come in and buy the excess. Surely though if you are generating surplus electricity, you should be compensated for it by lower tariffs. Brian

That's Scotland stuck then.

Owain

What storage would that be, then?

it uses pixie dust as the terminal material and unicorn fart as the electrolyte.

Dont you know ANYTHING?

it may not be cost effective, but pretending that it doesn't exist at all is disingenuous

Such storage is touted as if it's cheap, off the shelf, that we must be mad not to be deploying it, and it's the answer to a maiden's prayer.

In fact it is extremely expensive to do anything worth while with batteries, and I shall keep sneering at the childish sentiments for the time being.

I was asking what storage that would be. I never implied that no stoarge existed.

If its not cost effective I can assure you no one but a numpty will install it.

So what storage would that be?

In article <pvgg17$6s7$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, Brian Gaff snipped-for-privacy@blueyonder.co.uk> writes

Not if it's generated when no-one wants it

In article <211220181023444452% snipped-for-privacy@greenbee.net, Tim Streater snipped-for-privacy@greenbee.net writes

Where there are such facilities being built they quote MW rather than MWH Total deception.

Laboratory scale fusion exists (momentarily), but it is not a practical engineering solution to anything. I don't think I would be wrong to say fusion power is not available as an option. Ditto practical domestic electricity storage. Try running storage heaters from one that would fit in your house.

Veering off at a tangent, but not off-topic: isn't the most effective way of storing electricity in a reservoir, behind a hydro-electric dam?

Maybe building such dams is as expensive as a nuclear power station (nuclear being my personally favoured route ... but I think it's reserved for rich nations isn't it?)

John

And which reservoirs would those be, then?

It depends on the geography.

We don't have much suitable geography.

And its not in a convenient place. It's all in Scotland.,

So need a big extension cable as well.

We are a rich nation.

domestic battery storage is available

albeit at an unattractive price

tim

So you're agreeing that it's not a practical solution, rather it's one that only a numpty would seriously consider.

Does that mean there is no point in regenerative braking with trains, etc?

So who is volunteering for the job of persuading either the Scots or the Welsh to have their valleys flooded for the benefit of the English?

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