OT: Android management

On Monday, 15 January 2018 22:01:43 UTC, Bob Eager wrote:

and some say a vacuum sucks.
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On 15/01/18 14:21, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

What the fuck for?

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On 15/01/2018 21:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I'm not sure, but I don't think you can install even the free apps without a Google account. Maybe you can, and they just want you to have an account. They keep wanting you to put in your (credit) card details, but you can skip that.
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On 15/01/18 22:44, Max Demian wrote:

Oh yes, you need an account to get the apps, but that isn't 'logging into your android' not will it do anything for your apps unless they need updates. It doesnt store your configs
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

It does unless you go into settings, accounts, google and change the various sync settings (apps, calendar, gmail, books, music, etc, etc)
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On 15/01/2018 23:35, Andy Burns wrote:

You are wasting your time, TNP only knows windows up to XP and android version 1 and he bases all his "facts" on these. He has no idea what modern smart phones or windows actually does as he refuses to try them.
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On 16/01/18 07:44, dennis@home wrote:

Oh dear.
Poor old Dennis.
I have a 2018 android spmart phone sitting on te desk next to me
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Yes, but you're trying to "fight" the ways that smartphones work. That's fine, we know the reason you bought it was to give you wifi calling in poor signal areas, if someone made a dumbphone that did wifi calling it would fit your usage.
But if would let it "do its thing" it could, e.g. sync your contacts from a CSV or phonebook file, via the google account, rather than you having to type them them all into the phone, which was one of your first questions.
You might start using the camera, then use a USB lead or bluetooth to transfer the photos to a laptop like you might have done with a dumbphone ... or you can let it automatically upload the photos by wifi to google, so you can just suck them down by wifi to the laptop, or any other device, wherever you are.
Or have a to-do list that syncs between various devices, or a dozen other ways that smartphones can help, which you're free to void using and think you're "defending" your privacy, you're not really using a smartphone as intended, but it's no skin off my nose ...
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So Google knows who you interact with every day and stores every text message. Once voice recognition improves a little they will know everything you say and do all day and night. What's the evidence that modern phones (apart from the display) ever turn off - you can't remove the battery? This must seem a little creepy even to those with "nothing to hide". It also soaks up bandwidth for those of us with poor network connections.
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On 16/01/2018 10:42, Roger Hayter wrote: 8<

If you want to be paranoid what makes you think there is only one battery in the ones you can remove one from?
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A very fair question. I think to supply even a very low power version of a mobile phone transceiver the battery would have to be of quite significant size, and someone who repairs phones would have noticed by now. Unless the battery is disguised, and marked as, say, an electrolytic capacitor ...
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There are fuck all electros in a phone.
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On Tuesday, 16 January 2018 18:51:36 UTC, Roger Hayter wrote:

Electrolytic capacitor s are used as memory backup batteries. So possible.

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On 16/01/18 08:21, Andy Burns wrote:

Oh derar. Another one who has drunk the koolaid and wants to use a phone 'like google ntended' to simply part you from your money at every possible po8nt and give nothing of valiue in return except a moments distraction..
Be that as it may, the original comment was that 'all your apps would get configured once you had looged into android'
We have established that what wa smean was logging into google, and you have estbalished that merely means getting your data back NOT your app configurations.
And why is it that contacts are NOT avialable by USB, only via google?
I am not interetsed in payinga shitload of money for a frint end to google and amazon, and a device thet records my everyt movment with them
I want a phone.
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:53:50 +0000, The Natural Philosopher

App configs too, if the app is well written.

Don't buy a smartphone then. Even an address book is probably a step too far, why not just type in the numbers each time?
Or perhaps saddle up the horse and go over to visit?
Your typing is also regressing to the 1780s, perhaps you should slow down a touch.
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On 16/01/18 13:23, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

I would but hospitals, banks, stockbrkes, etc etc etc keep wanting to send me texts, not emails.
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On 18:30 16 Jan 2018, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Thinking of hospitals, have you had your cardiac procedure? Hope it went well. Seriously.
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On 16/01/2018 18:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A £15 phone will do text messages. Its been a basic feature for decades.
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On 16/01/2018 12:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Google has had zero money from me, but it has paid me some money to use it.

That's not true, properly written apps get their settings back too.

I can put my contacts on an internal SD card or a USB stick from my phone or transfer them by bluetooth/wifi/mobile data to other accounts than google on my android devices. You may have a 2018 android phone but you still think its version 1.0.

So buy a £10 phone then. BTW they track *all* mobiles and save *all* text messages on *all* mobile phones in the UK. You don't need a smart phone for them to do so. I should know I worked on some of the stuff they use to do it.
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On Tuesday, 16 January 2018 16:30:57 UTC, dennis@home wrote:

I heard on a TV program regarding smartphones) that if you use yuor andriod phone to buy something then google records what you brought when and where and sells that info to other advertisers and supplies. If you use Apple pay they don't keep any such records and a fee is applied that the buyer doesn't pay the advertisor pays the CC company.
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