OT Aldi

So 2.05% ABV?

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ARWadsworth
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I was never any good at Al Gebra.

Reply to
Mr Pounder

A lot less fun than you thought it would be? ;-)

Tim

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Tim+

"tim....." wrote: [snip]

See previous post. I knew that there was something not right about the supposed Italian extra-virgin olive oil sold in German supermarkets because it was for sale at prices lower than the guaranteed wholesale price for the product. David HandyLoon can't get his head around the fact that no farmer will sell their produce for less than the wholesale price when all they need to do is to call the local co-op and sell everything they produced at a guaranteed price.

He also doesn't understand that it's a seller's market with less oil produced than there is deman for. I'm not sure how naive he is. Would he buy Aberdeen Angus steak at £1 per kg?

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Steve Firth

The Medway Handyman wrote: [snip]

how many times does it have to be explained to you that the price of their olive oil was not a factor in my dislike of their practices? Mislabelling their products as something that it was not was my complaint about them.

It wasn't my complaint alone either, was it? The organisation that complained, successfully, about Laldi to the EU was the German magazine Der Feinschmecker.

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doubt you'll now go on to libel me and my wife's business as you did on previous occasions.

Given that you're a smoker and hence can't taste the difference between a steak and a dog turd anything you have to say about food must be treated with caution.

Reply to
Steve Firth

Unfortunately supermarket bags have holes in them these days, which means they leak when used as bin liners.

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djc

Round here, double yellow lines just help you see the kerb... I have not seen a policeman in the village since last year when some major football was on - then 3 PSCOs appeared.

Thsi is true - village butchers round here tend to specialise to best of the best in order to attract well off customers away from the supermarkets.

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Tim Watts

And I can now vouch that the Aldi fresh quarter pounders at £2 for four are excellent, having just had two for my tea, on Aldi's own white burger buns, one with cheese, both with lettuce, onion,mayo and tomato.

Quite stumpy, thick burgers, little fat comes out, retain their shape well and quite moist when cooked, they are lightly seasoned with herbs and are over 90% beef, gonna get some more next week :)

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Phil L

So you have yet to still see a police officer:-)

PCSOs are NOT the police.

When the PCSO used to come and see me regarding complaints about me he had to be accompanied by the police.

PCSOs are worthless. You are allowed to tell them to piss off and you have the same powers of arrest as they do.

They are nothing other than dog shit ticketers and they are as thick as pig shit. .

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ARWadsworth

Tesco, M&S etc started as "small shops".

Owain

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Owain

Yes, the ready-to-go batteries seem to be holding up ok; unlike the previous Lidl ordinary NiMhs, which are all slowly dying off.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

When I did monthly shops in Aldidl, I would put a couple of banana boxes (sleeved fashion) in the bottom of the trolley. Come checkout time, the stuff would be piled back into the boxes and the surplus bunged on top for bagging at the car. Two full banana boxes hold a surprising amount of stuff, making it easy to simply lift and drop into the rear hatch/boot.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

This is true. Not only that - but this bunch looked like they were being kept out the way of the real work down in Hastings (ie if they were deployed in Hastings, they would be debagged and thrown in the sea by the chavs in about 3 minutes).

Robertsbridge has not had a major public order incident since 1740 when the Hawkhurst Gang had a bit of pistol related fun with the Customs men.

On that basis, deploying one G4S body these days would seem excessive, let alone a PCSO with coke bottle specs.

Ours are pleasant enough but I'm not sure they are a lot of use...

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Tim Watts

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one I fell out with started off by assuming I was guilty. I put him straight and told him to f*ck off my property and send someone around to arrest me about the complaint they had received about me.

Reply to
ARWadsworth

I've seen 'Produced in UK' olive oil from Asda. Unless that was grown on the arid slopes of the Grampians, I suspect 'Produced' means 'packaged'. My guess therefore is the cheap extra-virgin is a blend of non-EU - perhaps Tunisian or Turkish or something. I don't know how the guaranteed price works - I assumed there's a tariff to stop imported oil undercutting the fixed price - but maybe they exploit a loophole somewhere.

OTOH olive oil that's not extra virgin is extracted from the dregs of the olive pits by solvents. I'd rather than cheap extra virgin that is the first press of the olives by mechanical means than something that's been chemically processed...

Theo

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Theo Markettos

no worse than "Yorkshire tea" - but, possibly the oil is pressed in the UK from imported olives.

Reply to
charles

No. There is to the best of my knowledge no suitable oil press in the UK. Not only that, but olives shipped in bulk start to ferment within two days of picking. Putting them into a ship and sailing for the UK would ensure that the ship arrived full of slimy, stinking olives crawling with maggots. The sensible way to do it is to press close to the source of production.

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Steve Firth

Yes, that's correct. There are many subtleties to EU labelling that permit suppliers to mislead the public. Much of what is sold in Italy, Greece and Spain is not produced locally. The big companies bottle the oil there, the oil itself comes from places like Israel, Tunisia, Turkey, Lebanon, Algeria and Morocco. There's nothing wrong with this IMO, but it would be preferable to see it labelled with the country of origin, rather than the place it was put into a bottle.

The olive oil in question wasn't EVOO, it was pomace oil, "lampante" and other low grade oils blended with some EVOO and other stuff then heat treated to give it a chemical signature that would fool most analyses other than "organoleptic" (what does it taste and smell like) and a sophisticated test employed by the Germans to check for signs of heat treatment.

No, it's not a guaranteed price it's the market price for oil sold at the wholesale rate via the local agricultural co-operatives. It's an agreed price between the co-ops and the bottlers/supermarkets. It represents the lowest price that one could expect to get for EVOO. Most farmers don't sell that way. If their product is any good it will be sold in advance to restaurants direct for a higher price. The market works much like the wine market. Some farmers sell direct to restaurants, others prefer to bottle themselves or supply in bulk at the farm gate to the passing trade, others will sell via the local co-op and have no idea where it goes after that.

The current co-op price in Italy is £7 per litre and it's £9 per litre for sales at the farm gate. That means that if you see a bottle in the UK for less than £7 a litre that it cannot be Italian produced EVOO. At the price that the German supermarkets sell it for it cannot be EVOO.

Not quite. EVOO is defined as oil with a specific acidity. It's possible for oil that is produced as a first pressing of oil solely by mechanical means to *not* be EVOO. This usually happens in countries that take the bizarre view that it's better to let the olives fall from the trees as over-ripe fruit than it is to harvest them while still firm.

The stuff that is steam and chemical extracted from the olive waste (pomace) is then chemically treated to produce "refined" olive oil. This is, in truth, best used as a lubricant for food processing machinery but often gets re-packaged for sale in countries that know nothing about olive oil.

Indeed. All the farmers I know would rather burn pomace on their fire over winter than sell it to companies that will use the refined olive oil to produce an adulterated "EVOO" for sale at knock-down prices.

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Steve Firth

I was thinking of VP wines of Kingston- but even they got the grape juice in bulk. Presumably you could use a refrigerated ship for olives - as they do for bananas?

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charles

I don't think so, the spoiling of the olives seems to be driven by the damage that occurs during picking which causes the fruit to self destruct - like an apple that has been dropped on the floor. It all seems like unnecessary complication when the olives can be pressed close to where they are harvested by people who know what they are doing. Since most of the olive is waste (water and pomace) what advantage is there in shipping whole olives some 2000 miles to a country where labour is more expensive than at the point of origin?

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Steve Firth

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