OT 1TB USB Sticks

why can I find 1TB USB sticks online at prices around 20 quid

and in B&M sties can't find them, at any price (TBH 20 *is* too cheap)

what am I missing here?

(I have noted the scam where some advertisers hide in the small print that their 1TB storage claim is a scam, but some claim it is genuine)

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tim...
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tim... expressed precisely :

Some removable memory is fiddled to report much more than actual memory, you only find out, once you begin trying to write to the entire reported amount of memory - once it reaches the actual limit of genuine memory, it begins over writing the same block again.

H2TESTW will check sdram cards and USB, not sure what size limit it has though

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Harry Bloomfield, Esq.

I think a lot of them are relying on Joe Publics ignorence of the difference between 'bits' and 'bytes' and will claim that 1TB is just a typo error and they meant 1Tb (128GB).

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Andy Bennet

On amazon (even with prime day pricing) a named brand (pny, cosair, sandisk) you're looking between £175 and £235 for a 1TB USB, anything below half that price is guaranteed to be a scam even from a no-name brand

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Andy Burns

Amazon have the odd one at the £40 mark from no-name suppliers. And one

1TB offer USB 3.1 at a rather silly high price.

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Sandisk, Integral & Kingston have always proved reliable for me. (as have various no-name give aways from trade fairs)

Reputable brands are still mostly around the 256GB mark for price and performance (coincidentally also about 20 and USB 3).

It miss reports its size to the OS so you are buying what may well prove to be write only memory. What you wrote to it most recently will probably still be there but stuff from last year may vanish...

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Martin Brown

I had considered that

but there's no need for them to be dishonest

I can see 2TB for 11 quid

if that's a genuine 256GB for 11 quid

it's still a very good price

If it works, of course

but that's the issue of buying anything like this on eBay/Amazon, which is why I don't do it

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tim...

Oh I know

But that's a scam that get's you an instant refund.

As long as you are savvy enough to check

I bought a 32GB card for my camera that suffered that fault.

Hence the reason that I will never use this channel for this product ever again [1].

50% more from a shop for something that works. is well worth it.

But in this 1TB case, there doesn't appear to be a shop option

tim

[1] Actually I learnt this from my spell working in China. Experienced hands said do not be fooled by the apparent cheap price for removable media in the backstreet shops here. More often than not they are scams - and a damn sight harder to take back for a refund than an eBay purchase - "Me no speaky Engrish, No you didn't buy this here...".
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tim...

when buying online from China the branding is irrelevant

Counterfeit branding is rife.

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tim...

Because they are fakes...

Because the largest drives currently available are around the 512GB, for which you will be paying the best part of £100. 1TB is not an option yet.

Someone takes a cheap as chips drive - say 32GB or similar, and knobbles it to get it to report more memory than it actually has.

Even the fakes have real storage, so if you buy one, and stick it into a machine - it will report the claimed capacity. If you write a few large test files to it, then it will perform ok, and let you read the files without error. Its only some time (possibly significantly) later that you reach the extend of the actual storage and get data loos/corruption trying to add more. Hence lots of glowing reports from punters that have bought one and "tested" it, and confirm its a really good deal. (along with those 9,000 mAh 18650 cells they bought!)

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John Rumm

Regarding China, I ordered some spectacle frame samples before placing a large order. The sample item had Silhouette's logo on it. Convincing enough too even to someone in the know.

I hadn't requested this, it was merely them demonstrating they'll print what you want on anything.

Presumably a problem when buying from any non-reputable retailer.

I bought some 'Duracell' rechargeable batteries on ebay recently. I reckon i've been had.

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R D S

IME It's next to impossible to buy genuine "genuine" replacement razor heads online - and you find out immediately you've been had.

It's so annoying because it ought to be possible to buy them online at a discount to the rip off shop price

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tim...

The factory might well be producing genuine Silhouette items from a different loading bay.

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Reply to
charles

Often that is the case with designer stuff. Silhouette i'm relatively sure are made in Europe. Though as I said in another thread that is not always something to sing about!

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R D S

There are 1tb sticks, but I've heard reliability is an issue. Also if you are thinking about filling it with music, be careful a lot of devices don't like them as they are too big and formatted intents format too. I don't know if they can be partitioned to allow them to look like more than one drive. In Windows this works but lots of media players and recorders use weird formats not supported by these sticks. Brian

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Brian Gaff (Sofa

Windows 10 may have gained some ability to support multiple primary partitions on a USB stick.

But then, if you have some other version of Windows booted, only the first recognized partition will be accessible, the others get ignored.

Linux is a bit better in this regard. You're more likely to be able to see and access the partitions.

There's no problem with *genuine* USB flash sticks 1TB in size. Since no one can afford the genuine ones, all we're getting is reports concerning the shabby performance of the

*counterfeit* ones.

I checked the Kingston store earlier, and while Kingston has released press releases stating they have larger drives, the store only shows a 512GB one for sale.

Other makers of so-called genuine materials, at least one of them wanted $1650 for the product, which is like

80x the price on Ebay for a counterfeit one. It should be relatively easy to determine you've been had, just based on price. Some of the smaller genuine USB sticks are $265, which is still 13x the price of a counterfeit item.

The counterfeit sellers are so lazy, they don't even double the counterfeit price, when going from 1TB USB to 2TB USB. The additional cost is small, because all they're doing is typing a different number into their counterfeit stamper software. The fun stops, when the register inside the device, runs out of bits for storage. It's possible the end is 2TB because of a 32 bit register limit. They would be assigning even larger numbers, if the controller chip supported such scams.

As for the reliability of USB Flash, sticks based on MLC chips (around 8GB max) are excellent. Modern TLC based Flash sticks are not all that good. This is one reason I would not be spending $1650 for a "genuine" USB TLC flash stick, when a 1TB SSD with MLC inside is available for a quarter of the price. You can then hang a USB3 to SATA cable off it, and make a USB flash drive out of your purchase.

Paul

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Paul

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If it sounds to good to be true....

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bert

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