Just make sure they don't go anywhere. Can't be that hard. We seem to manage with the nations gold reserves (for example).
I'm still not really convinced about objections to dropping them into an open volcano ...
well the advanced torus thingie is on track to make power in a few years now. Only taken 70 odd years of low priority investment...
I think RR is seeking govt. committing funds (£135m ?) which if forthcoming they say will be matched by investors.
I don't suppose £270m goes far in mini-nukes, but it's in the right direction ...
I wonder what happened to that outfit the BBC were plugging a while back. (It was supposed to be a documentary, but focussed on this with company named a bit too long for my tastes). Somewhere in Oxford and using shockwaves to fuse hydrogen ?
It worries me that with this massive expenditure on Covid, govt investment in such projects will be significantly curtailed.
The thing I don't understand about Fusion is why anyone expects it to be cheap/economic, even if they did get it to work. i.e Fast breeders effectively give us enough power, why would fusion be cheaper?
In message <rolocm$s7f$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, Jethro_uk <jethro snipped-for-privacy@hotmailbin.com writes
Hmm.. I sat next to an gentleman from Harwell (I think) at an energy managers conference around 1982. Asked the inevitable question, he said, at least 50 years!
Pah, drop in the ocean compared to Brexit spending so far.
Quite so. You decommission teh safe bits and leave the rest for 50 years. Then you decommission that. AIUI, the reactor of the Three Mile Island incident has been completely decommissioned.
By the way, Brian, you should understand that you (and I, in fact everyone) are radioactive. And so has been every plant and animal that ever existed.
Living not that far from the biggest nuclear reactor in the solar system might just have something to do with it.
Numbers?
And we all know about experts, don't we ?
Last count from Bloomberg was £203 billion by year end.
Interesting that Turnip thinks one who gave 'testing his eyesight' as a reason to drive many miles with his partner and child in the car 'has a brain'. The average 5 year old could invent a better lie than that.
But of course it's a rat leaving the sinking ship. Before Jan 1st. And all the fallout from crashing out of the EU.
This is what happens when you don't listen to those who have a far better idea what will happen after leaving the EU.
But they only stand to make money out of it if it actually works.
Unless you're going to claim they're only doing it to get Govt research grants and employ highly qualified people doing useless research just for the sake of it.
When they could presumbly be emplying those same people to be actually doing something useful.
Or you might say they're simply doing it (PR puff) to reassure private investors. But again if they're simply pouring money down the drain, that won't do much for their reputation.
Just like electric cars not taking into account the cost and relative efficiency of the power generation plants needed to produce the power for their relatively efficient electric motors, then.
He's a bit more than a bozo by the looks of things. Are you sure he wasn't adopted ?
Anyway as long as *you* haven't lent him any money, or acted as guarantor for any of his loans, that's the important thing.
As it happens your analogy might be better applied to nuclear. Where the costs of decommissioning will still need to be met, long after particular plants have ceased operation, and are no longer producing electricity
michael adams
Please stop telling us what you feel. Richard Dawkins
That you're a bit of a pompous d*****ad ? Fair enough, if you insist.
And it is estimated that "Covid-19 is already likely to cost the UK government £317bn ? in _increased_ public borrowing ? in 2020/21 alone" (my emphasis).
One of the R4 science programs had someone talking about sending microbe packages up to ISS with the long term aim of getting them to extract rare earth elements from asteroids.
If you are a university researcher you are making money out of the
*idea*, not out of any long term commercial prospects.To my mind the reason mining asteroids is a very long way off is, apart from the extraction cost, because of the energy cost of moving mass from one orbit to another. This is currently far in excess of the value of any stable element.
Oh yes. Trouble is, most people won't understand what you are talking about.
Indeed. But that's fundamental or basic research with no immediate short term benefits. Usually funded directly or indirectly through grants to Universities by Govts or by billionaire donors looking for tax breaks and good publicity
The research I was referring to was the kind described on the Mitsubishi Corporation* website
<quote>A project is underway in the Netherlands where they are planning to transform their large thermal generation into a 100% hydrogen - fired power generation plant by 2025. We are driving the practical application of large-scale hydrogen gas turbine, is taking part in this project. The hydrogen generation technology is part of the growth strategy for Japan.
</quote>Almost in the original Japanese
michael adams
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