Million quid for doing nothing?

Yes, I wondered about that. I bet they don't include that in the calculations to show how cost-effective the darned things are.

Having unwrapped that to

how does that compare with what they'd have been paid if the power had been needed?

Andy

Ta, I forgot. too incensed... B-)

I thought this paragraph was in the Scotsman story, it's still in the Telegraph:

"EDF charged between £89 to £149 for every megawatt hour (MWh) of en ergy that was not produced, compared to £50 per MWh the company would have

received for selling it."

From the information in the article the payments work out at £2,000 pa per turbine

You can also work out that the owner of the land is paid approx 7,000 pa per turbine, but that's just rent and got nothing to do with power generated

From Wikipedia (if you can believe that) each of these particular turbines is 2.3 megawatts,

but here I am stuck

To get to chargeable units (kW/h) per year do you multiply by 1 (year),

but even if that's the amount generated in a year, at 5p per unit that's

tim

Oops, silly me, forgot to divide by that 1000.

So either it makes 100 pounds pa, which is silly or we multiply up by hours to give 900K pa

Nice work if you can get it

tim

In the telegraph they said about three times as much.

If it actually generated 2.3MW, thats 2300KW, which means it generates

but multiply by 0.25 for average output from the turbine.,

so a 2.3MW turbine (anout £2m installed ) generates around about 5 million units a year

Those sell with the FIT/ROC added at between 10 and 15p a unit. So an income of about half a million to 3/4 of a million for a two million investment.

which is good because they only last a few years before they are scrap.

The point is that the market rate at the time they were switched of was around 5p a unit.

More like £2.5m for a big 2.3MW one

The point is it shows what will happen if we end up with 30% average grid down to wind. We would be routinely be throwing away terawatt housrs and paying billions to turbine operators who are 'generating' elecricity we dont need and cant use, bvecause in the end with a 'rebeable obligatinenshrined oin law, teh wind companies have the government by the short hairs. And te word has got around - EDF are simply taking the piss these days, treating DECC with the utter contempt they deserve

That's mad.

Why would they pay them more to feather their blades and save bearing wear?

Windmills might not be good at coming on when you want them to, but they can go off at a moment's notice.

Andy

Ed Miliband, Energy secretary on the make, wanting th egreen stupid vote. Clegg, deputy PM getting the green stupid vote. Wife on boarf of - yes - windfarm company. A half a dozen at least MPs in a position to c;lean up from wind power

Go figure.

windmills are not good for anything.