Is there a way that neighbours can force someone to tidy an unsightly
Mate has neigbour at head of cul-de-sac with 4 or 5 moss covered cars and a
caravan, some lorry tires, a collapsed shed and garage.
He get agressive to any suggestion that he could sell the stuff.
Any legal or council route to force action?
The Council also has powers to help maintain the standard of the local
Land or buildings in an unsightly condition that may be "detrimental to
the amenity of the neighbourhood" can be dealt with under powers
available under the Town and Country Planning Act 1990.
The Council can serve a Section 215 notice on the owner or occupier when
the poor condition and the appearance of the property or land are
detrimental to the surrounding area or neighbourhood. The section 215
notice requires proper maintenance of the property or land in question,
and it specifies what steps are required to remedy the problem within a
specific time period. An appeal may be lodged against the section 215
notice to the magistrates court. The non-compliance with a section 215
notice is an offence.
But also answers another thread 'How to get rid of moss'.
Before agrochemicals, gardening magazines had adverts for
'flame throwers', based on pumped-up blowtorches for
sterilising soil or killing weeds.
You can still get them, and I don't mean the tiddley little propane
things available from LIdl and Aldi but much larger paraffin powered
A chum and I had school holiday jobs nearly 50 years ago at a semi
derelict Nursery Gardens which the owner by herself was attempting to
recover, the flame gun was one of the most used tools.
One Friday we burnt a load of nettles and bracken that were inside a
semi sunken greenhouse that had built up for about 20 years and the
went home. On Monday Morning we found that it was a now a glass
roofed if somewhat mucky swimming pool as unaware of its presence we
had melted a lead pipe supporting a tap.
This caused a temporary water shortage as the gardens were supplied by
an old iron tank that was now empty and that was fed by a Hydraulic
Ram that took a while to top it up again.
Now that was a bit of green technology that in the right place
actually worked and even then had done so for about 60 years.
I think it depends on whether its dangerous, or in a conservation area. You
might be able to suggest there is vermin there, but proof is hard to come
by. Hoarders need help not bashing over the head with a lawyer.
I have a friend a bit like this. Three cars in hist garden which he says he
is going to either strip for spares or get to run as two are classic. I say
the two classics are not and are simply rusting away. Luckily they cannot be
seen from the road, but I'd not want to live next door to it.
He is over 70 and I don't think he will ever find time or inclination to do
This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
Not really. It gives the people they "leave behind" a chance to
make a new start. Supposing instead he was a keen gardener with
a prize winning garden and suddenly dropped dead. And none of those
he left behind had the slightest interest in gardening.
What then ? Should they be saddled with vainly
trying to keep it on ? Or should they have the chance of getting
in contractors to dig it all up and lay fancy paving, as would be
their right. Exactly the same as if it had been an overgrown
Interesting comment. Not talking about untidy front gardens here, but
generally leaving problems for the next generation. We bought this
property 15 years ago, and it was fairly run down, with all sorts of
problems, which are gradually being dealt with. However, I know I'm
getting slower, coupled with doing slightly less per day. Assuming I
live here until the day I die, I may not (will probably not) finish
everything that needs doing.
Well, so what? My son will inherit probably not a great deal of cash,
but a property worth quite a lot of money. OK, I will be leaving him
with stuff that needs doing, but he will still have the asset which he
can keep, knowing ongoing work will be required, or sell as is, and come
out with a barrow load of cash to spend on his own smaller place, or
blow the lot on fast cars and faster women. All my 'treasures' he can
keep, sell, or chuck in a skip.
I remember a tv programme (can't remember what series it was part of)
'starring' a Mr Trebus. He had a garden that was all but a tip.
The process to get him to clear it up was V E R Y long and tedious,
the council (may have been the H&S dept.) was involved and all sorts.
Ended up they cleared it and charged him, within a few weeks it had
started up again within a year it was as bad as ever.
In the Sheffield episodes there was a Mr Trebus-like man whose case was
being dealt with by a colleague of mine back in a previous life. It was
noticable seeing his house change each time I went past on the bus, and
then a year later seeing it on TV and realising I'd been watching it
happen as it happened.
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