Vandals have broken 3 windows on the Rainbow Kids Bus. How can I repair them so they're legal on the road?
Find replacement originals somewhere? Get a window firm to cut and fit laminate glass? Make hardboard templates and take them to a glass maker? plastic?
any help or other ideas please...
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Andrew Mawson
Another option is to cut them to shape yourself from polycarbonate sheet (Lexan) with a jigsaw. Unlike glass and Perspex polycarbonate has the advantage that bricks bounce off thus spoiling the little dears fun
AWEM
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The Natural Philosopher
get toughened or lamninated made up and fit yourself.
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Part Timer
I'm not much of a bus spotter but I looked up what your reg number showed on
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- Leyland Redline.
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tells me there are 150 taxed and 113 on SORN. Is there an owners' club? Who was the body made by? It might share common windows with other Leyland models
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Muddymike
Vandals have broken 3 windows on the Rainbow Kids Bus.
Any decent glass company should be able to cut laminated glass to fit, as long as the windows are all flat that is.
Mike
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John Williamson
need to match the thickness of the glass so you can re-use the original rubbers. The C&U rules used to say they that windows on vehicles have to be of a "safety glazing material" unless it's the windscreen, in which case, it has to be glass, so if they're glass, either toughened or laminated.
Try a bus scrapyard (Yes, they do exist) or, if the insurance company are paying, there are specialist companies. You could also try asking your local plant hire companies, as they will know who in your area can supply and fit glass of the right size. I used a plant repair firm when I had a window broken in the Land Rover, and it cost much less than the official part.
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Chris Bartram
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Brian Gaff
I hope you get the tow rags to pay for them.
Brian
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Nightjar
There was a case a few years ago when someone tried to throw a brick through a jeweller's window, which was protected with polycarbonate. The brick not only bounced off, it hit the chap who threw it and knocked him out. Police found him lying in the street in the early hours of the morning and arrested him.
Colin Bignell
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Nthkentman
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The Natural Philosopher
That's gotta be a first. Usually they arrest to shopkeeper for dangerous windows that anyone might reasonably expect to break when a brick is chucked at them,.
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Jeremy Nicoll - news posts
Is there any requirement for the 'glass' to be easily breakable so that people can escape through windows if the bus overturns in an accident?
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John Williamson
As far as I'm aware, only if it's a designated emergency exit, in which case, there'll be a hammer nearby. Alternatively, you get a mounting system which releases the window by pulling a ring, which loosens the window in its frame so it can be pushed out.
As the vehicle in question doesn't appear to be a PCV but is a playbus not licenced to carry passengers, other rules might apply, such as the fire escape rules for buildings.
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fred
The only neg I could think of in using non standard replacement glass is the _possibility_ that any requirement for safety glass can only met by using kite marked product that indicates it is suitable for vehicular use. Not saying it will be an issue, just flagging it as worth checking with a tester before fitting. Using the plant glass replacement company already linked to should avoid such difficulties.
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Grimly Curmudgeon
There were lots of standard windows fitted to those bus bodies, so a very good chance of that.
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Grimly Curmudgeon
A degree of care in selecting the polycarbonate is needed and the seller should know - I found the hard way that some p.c. browns and goes cloudy after ten years.
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Dave Plowman (News)
Wodney on a visit?
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Terry Casey
PVS Barnsley claim to be the largest.
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them via their website with details of the windows required.
Possibly they might be able to point to a similar operation closer to you if you ask, as personal collection would solve any delivery problems.
Incidentally, I often notice, when travelling on vintage buses, that the BS certification on ALL windows is circled in yellow chinagraph pencil. I assume this check is part of the MOT.
Note that many vehicles I travel on are privately owned and are NOT licenced PCVs. (A PCV is subject to a much stricter MOT.)
If you are going down the polycarbonate route, I would suggest you check this out.
Have you thought of having a word with your MOT testing station about this?
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John Williamson
The BS certification on PCVs is checked as part of the test, the chinagraph circle is to draw the examiner's attention to it, as on older vehicles,the mark is often faded and hard to find.
It may also be a requirement for Class 5 vehicles, but I don't deal with those, so couldn't comment with any authority.
Always a good idea. VOSA have a helpline and helpful e-mail contacts and can often advise you without seeing the vehicle or having details which will identify it or you:-
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Nightjar
All polycarbonate will degrade in sunlight unless it has an anti-UV coating and you make sure you put it in the right way around, as the coating is usually only on one side.
Colin Bignell
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