London tube Ticket (OT)

[Clive George]

Building exercise into necessary journeys saves a lot of time - though though this may not be a problem for a pensioner :-)

[Roland Perry]

In message , at 14:46:19 on Mon, 14 Jan 2013, John Williamson remarked:

Does the average HGV have over 7 seats?

[Terry Casey]

It depends how you are travelling and which sites you want to visit - there is only one bus zone so any travelcard is valid on all buses in Greater London.

Full list of tickets and prices here:

is the tube map showing the zones:

use this one if travelling on National Rail as well:

maps are useful - this is Central London

there are four more covering the suburbs

last link isn't a mistake, at least, not on my part!

It doesn't work without the extra .pdf ...

There are lots more maps including 'Spider maps" for individual locations which exaxctly which buses stop where. Full list:

this one for buses only ...

[Terry Casey]

When I first saw them, they were 2d, 4d and 6d ...

[Terry Casey]

You don't think that is anything to do with Ilford being in Zone 4, do you ...?

As are also Seven Kings and Goodmayes ...

[Terry Casey]

what they were for.

During the test phase, TfL issued Oyster cards to its staff.

Aparently a couple of them bought a bag of burger rolls and stuck the cards inside. Passengers at crowded tube stations were amazed when this pair waved their burgers over the ticket readers and the gates opened 'as if by magic'!

[John Williamson]

I assumed you were taking passengers, but goods vehicles are affected as well.

To answer your question, no, but it weighs over 1.205 tonnes empty or

3.5 tonnes maximum laden weight, which is the other criterion. If you go here:-

enter your registration number or vehicle type, it will tell you if your vehicle is affected. Older vehicles can be modified to meet the requirements, the company I work for have installed exhaust scrubbers in some of our older coaches at a cost of about 5 grand each to let us go into the LEZ with them.

[Terry Casey]

Not so, Charles!

Any pensioner in England can travel on any bus in the coutry for free between

0930 and 2300 weekdays, 24 hours weekends and Bank holidays.

For convenience, Londoners' 24 hour validity seven days a week is extended to visitors as well,

Only passes issued to Londoners can be used on the underground, trams and National Railways.

Similarly, a Tyneside resident has free travel extended to the Tyne and Wear Metro but that concession doesn't extend to others, like you and me ...

[bert]

Pensioners (or strictly anyone over state pension age for women) who live in London can travel free on buses, underground and overground. Those living outside London only get free buses in London

[bert]

In message , charles writes

Visitors get free bus travel, which is the statutory minimum. London gets so much more in per capita grant from central government that they can afford to give extras.

[Dom Ostrowski]

There's been lots of geek gadgets created by extracting the chip and coil from within Oyster cards and repackaging them - power gloves, magic wands etc.

[bert]

On the contrary it is pensioners journeys which is keeping much of the bus network in place. It is outside the metropolitan areas largely self regulating in that bus services are so poor that anyone who can afford a car has one.

[bert]

I you don't use it then it costs nothing. I have a bus pass. I use it rarely usually if I'm going to the station as the car park charges there are often more than the actual train ticket.

[bert]

Don't you believe it. Since I retired I don't know how I ever found time to go to work.

[bert]

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

Tracks the retirement age for women. Originally it was for those over stare pension retirement age, 60 for women, 65 for men. Then the whinging equality mob complained it was "unfair" to men.

[charles]

when i lived in Richmond (1963) the No 73 bus went to the West End - and there was also a GreenLine coach.

[djc]

The centre zone covers all the stations on, or inward of, the circle line, and that joins up most of the main railway stations. So that should cover you for everything from the Tower of London to the Science Museum.

Congestion charge: North of the Thames roughly the inner ring road (A501) from Tower Bridge, up City Road to Angel, along Euston Road to Edgeware Road, then down Park Lane, to Vauxall Bridge. South of the river, don't know, I don't go there. So resist any temptation to go into any side street in search of a shortcut. If you do cross the boundary, there is no point in stopping and turning rout, the cameras at every entry point will have caught you, so you are going to pay anyway.

[tony sayer]

Just one word of advice if you _think_ you have transgressed the sooner you pay the lesser it is.

Congestion Charge Costs

£9 Paid by auto Pay £10 paid by midnight on the day of travel £12 paid by midnight the following charging day.

You don?t have to pay the very second you enter the congestion zone. You can pay anytime that day.

If you wait too long...

Say goodbye to 60 odd quid.... then that ramps up to 120 !...

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Provided they have applied for and got the appropriate pass.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

GreenLine, of course, cost considerably more for local journeys. Most of the routes which existed in the '60s have been split into several shorter ones now.