Lithium batteries, not worth it

Apr 14, 2023 Last reply: 3 years ago 268 Replies

Oh, you really want to freak out the greenies. Tell them that mature trees, A.K.A. "Old Growth", use as much oxygen as CO2. CO2 in the day to create sugars; oxygen at night to create proteins. Zero sum game.

It increases the rolling resistance. increases resitive losses in the electrical system too

That sounds dumb to me. Silver is a better conductor of electricity but yet we use copper. "Better job" means cost efficiency. sustainability, and adequate performance.

There were no humans 50 million years ago, so regardless of whether your number is correct, it is completely irrelevent.

You are wasting your time - nuance doesn't work with him. Like a lot of people here, reason goes out of the window as soon as certain buttons are pushed.

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Not to mention the carbon cost of all the helicopters land rovers and service boats needed to access them

He is of course talking bollocks, otherwise a 30 tonne truck would use the same amount of fuel as a 2CV Heavy vehicles use massive amounts of energy to accelerate or go up hills which you do not all get back in the reverse direction, and the rolling resistance is not far off proportional to the weight. Every time you use the disk brakes, energy is lost that will never be recovered, too.

Then you have no understanding of electrochemistry

Silver is a better conductor of electricity but

But batteries even with lithium do not have 'adequate' performance. And nothing is 'sustainable'

We are all surfing the Big Bang entropy wave to eventual heat death.

You are wasting your time - nuance doesn't work with him. Like a lot of people here, reason goes out of the window as soon as certain buttons are pushed.

The fact that Lithium occupies a position in the periodic table that makes it THE best metal to use in battery chemistry, in terms of energy density, makes no sense to someone who has no concept of inorganic electrochemistry, yet will gaily parrot the received unwisdom of the great renewable fraud.

Anyone can repeat a lie. Understanding the current 'truth' of science and applying it to every day problems is far far harder.

And yet we've achieved so much. Most of the world speaks the language we invented.

Utter bullshit. Nothing can be better until we think of it, right.....

Airplane, ROTFPMSL! Do you also say airdrome? Airfoil?

My neighbour's wood burning stove smells bad enough. Do not suggest such things to him.

Shall I cycle 500 miles to my Aunt's house this summer?

The fuel obviously.

Uranium is just as rare as other things.

We need thorium ones or something.

Not everybody pays the taxes, but it's still tough going with so much competition.

The Feds used to use Flir cameras to look for the IR signatures of grow factories.

I might gently suggest that you are repeating yourself.

Read "Finding The Mother Tree." Cool book.

CO2 levels have flailed violently over past millions of years, with no humans around.

Leaving aside carbon-neutral synthetic fuels made from agricultural waste and atomospheric carbon capture, which are perfectly viable alternatives:

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Plants will adapt to using more CO2 to grow faster. Farmers and ag colleges will breed them to do that.

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