On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 07:34:52 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Little tip: get a cheap USB hub, plug that into the TV (once) and then
plug your devices into the hub (also works for PCs in general).
WRT to the HDD ... we use both an HDD and memory sticks (that hub is
already paying for itself). Never had any issues - but then any *writing*
is done off-TV.
FWIW our hub has a little "on/off" switch, which means that when you
aren't using the HDD, you can simply switch it out of the circuit. Which
means when you do want to use it you switch it in, which seems to wake it
Really, I'd like to dispense with all that malarkey, and simply stream
over WiFi. But for some reason it struggles with very big HD files. (Not
for the first time do I curse not having the foresight to cable the house
up when the heating engineer had all the boards up.)
I cabled the place up with coax LAN, TV antennas piped all round and
phone sockets in the mid 80's, then in the 90's replaced the LAN coax
with RJ45/CAT5 to most places, plus wifi filling in the gaps.
What ever you do, it will be out of date tomorrow.
My experience of wifi and powernet shite is that NOTHING is as reliable
or as fast as 100Mbps cat5, or indeed gigabit if you have it.
I can stream some videos over wifi - allegedly 65Mbps - but it stutters
on HD sometimes.
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.
Are you sure that on live TV the disk isn't being used for timeshift?
Timeshift is the ability to pause and scroll back, say, a couple of
hours of the programme/channel you are watching. To scroll back a couple
of hours of live TV the channel you are watching has to be recorded in a
(circular) buffer on the hard disk. In this mode the disk will always
be used for recording.
In IPTV mode I would assume that the disk is being used a temporary
buffer storing data as it arrives and then reading it back out at a
slower rate. Perhaps local timeshift is also being applied to IPTV data.
A disk that is constantly being used for timeshift functions cannot go
On my STB timeshift operates in two optional ways.
i) the hard disk is only used for recording when the pause key is
operated and subsequent viewing of the delayed programme This means when
not in use it can go to sleep. The disadvantage with this mode of
operation is with live TV you cannot scroll back before the time when
you pressed the pause button.
ii) the disk is always being used to record what you are watching. This
means you can pause a programme and then immediately scroll back a
minute or perhaps a few hours of the live broadcast. Usually this
recording is limited to a few hours with the most historic stuff getting
constantly over-written. This recording buffer is usually cleared/reset
when changing channels
LG may call timeshift "time machine"
I am not sure at the moment of anything at all. The set came new, but
with no instructions. I managed to download 'some' instructions from
the LG site, but they seem to only cover the remote buttons and the use
of a serial data connection to the unit. Nothing detailed for the
normal user, or the spec..
On mine there is also a quite detailed manual. If you bring up the multi
coloured stripe at the bottom of the screen:
Scroll along the list, and one should be the full manual... (ISTR its
orange on mine)
 Yes I know its an old page, but I just wanted an image of the menu,
and that one came up on the search with a more attractive screen
"border" than many ;-)
If your set supports instant record, then it has to run all the time as
spinning up and finding its fat etc will take time.
As for sticks. I feel that is poppycock unless you are very unlucky.
We use sticks on a weekly turn around at our talking newspaper and they
seem none the worse for it at all. Most failures are mechanical, like user
or post office mishandling with size 9 boots.
I think you may find 4 gig is about the smallest that you need for that tv
Lots around very much larger than that of course and not that expensive.
This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
A weekly rewriting is a lot different to a constant rewrite that would
be the case in a TV.
Having said that, I have a stick in a raspberry pi which I am using as
a weather server, which is being constantly written to. This it has
been doing since mid-summer.
On Friday, 26 October 2018 07:34:56 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
I have a 43" Smart LG and have used USB sticks I';m not sire if I tried a sub 1GB.
I had a problem with an external HDD, it was unrelaible I think due to using the TV to power it, I tried external power and it was a bit more relible but not much.
After finding out I couldn;t record some channels to USB I haven;t found a use to use it in recroded mode but do use it to watch things using a SD card in a USB adapter.
Perhaps they HDD needs to access itself evey so often.
I tend to use USB sticks, HDDs can require more power than I'm convinced
the USB ports in our TVs (at least some of them) are designed for.
As a rough guide, allow 1G/hr on record so, even a modest 32G stick will
hold a far bit.
We have an older LG which doesn't record but other TVs which do. Some
use the ts extension from memory but, if you charge it to mp4, you can
play the files on a PC or other TV. The other TV uses a file system (not
just file extension) I can't identify.
It does seem to vary a bit IME, but its probably not a bad figure to use
for estimating storage requirements. The .ts recordings for the last
three episodes from my setup are coming in at between 1.2, and 1.6 GB
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