Interesting boiler wiring issue

Since my boiler was replaced (to Viessmannn Vitodens 100-W) have been having an intermittent fault, boiler would shut down and a pair of alarms .... over temp, and low voltage. Sometimes 2 or 3 weeks with no issue then, 5 or 6 times in a day ?

Fun to run in a new 5 core cable to boiler all overhead, but got it done.

Viessmann connected it at the boiler .... initiated call for heat from system .,.. run up OK, cancelled call for heat ..... RCD tripped.

Repeated - and the same result each time.

After some investigation found the L,N,E which were the feed for the previous BAXI, was supposed to have been used for this boiler, the installers though decided only to connect the L (to perform switched live) They needed permanent live so it took that from nearby mains outlet, and also used N from that.

The issue was traced to System controls (switched Live) being on one RCD and the main socket (ring main) was on another RCD ..... the crossed Neutrals were causing the RCD's to trip.

Must have been just on edge of N imbalance threshold as was intermittent, untill pump overrun added.

If we had not added in the pump overrun and made this a repeatable fault could have been chasing this for months.

Luckily had run in a new 5 core cable so could provide permanent L&N as well as pump overrun form my system, and remove the local socket permanent live.

Fair play to Viessmann - they knew it was not a boiler fault, but were prepared to work with me to find the cause, installer had just passed the issue direct to Viessmann.

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Sargan
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There was no electrician such just the Viessmann Heating Engineer.

The issue was it did not become a repeatable fault until the boiler overrun was added, then the fault was found reasonably quickly. Boiler installers fault for not connecting in the original neutral, which would probably have shown hard fault from the beginning.

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Sargan

At least they were gas safe. Not having a clue about the electric side doesn't matter, as electricity can't kill.

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Dave Plowman (News

I self installed a 200-w system boiler. Viessmann technical were very good indeed with help. Mainly with the (then) near unfathomable weather compensation software.

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Dave Plowman (News

:-)

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Sargan

How did you get on with the compensator - the engineer was suggesting might be worth getting, but as boiler is for a Thermal store can't see how its going to really help.

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Sargan

Pretty happy with it on the whole. But I'm still not certain the software is set spot on.

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Dave Plowman (News

I've just disconnected mine (Ideal boiler). The gradient is such that the rads get nowhere hot enough when outside temps are above c.10C

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RJH

My boiler is in the bathroom. I wanted the ability to control the basics from the kitchen. Things like selecting hot water only - or using the party mode to keep it on past normal switch off time.

Ideally, the programmer built into the boiler could have been moved and the leads extended to allow this. But no - I had to fit a zone controller. With nothing zoned. But that does duplicate all the facilities I wanted handy. A side effect is altering the temperature setting on that 'trims' the overall house temperature. Turning that full up does help on the coldest day.

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Dave Plowman (News

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