HSE review of the Domestic Gas Safety Regulatory Framework

[Aidan]

The HSE is conducting a review of the domestic gas safety regulatory framework.

Details here;

have appointed consultants to carry out the review and a questionnaire is available for "stakeholders" (???) to submit their views.

If you'd like to make your opinions known, the questionnaire is available here;

need to click on the 'Review of Domestic Gas Safety Regulatory Framework' button at the bottom of the page.

Completed questionnaires must be returned by Friday 30th June 2006 at the latest.

I suspect pressure groups with a vested interest may be campaigning for a complete ban on DIY gas work or the sale of gas appliances to non-CORGI registered people or companies.

One question is; "Does 'DIY' gas installation represent a threat to domestic gas safety?"

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

[.]

I don't care. I'm aaf to do me 50 jobs for ACS and get CORGI'd up anyway ;-)

[dom]

It's a loaded question.

Of course it does.

Just like drivers cause road accidents.

Th real question (along with Part P) should be, "Is there an unacceptable number of accidents caused by DIY work?"

How would a CORGI installer know the answer to (either) question anyway?

Only accident investigation statistics can tell if the problem is significant.

Significant problem: Determine the best remedy - education/regulation/inspection etc.

Insignificant problem: Do nothing.

[Aidan]

I thought so.

Not necessarily, (IMHO).

I think there will be pressure groups acting to ensure this heads in a Part P type direction, closely followed by all plumbing installation.

[sm_jamieson]

Who sparked off this particular HSE review ?

Loaded questions are how surveyors get the results they want.

The CORGI man may have seen (or claim to have seen) several DIY jobs gone wrong that he has had to fix, and he will say so. But of course he will only have seen the bad ones, the good ones he will not know is DIY.

Will the review be open enough to accept that there should be competition for CORGI ? I doubt it. And if there was a large DIY community contribution to the survey, someone will say "oh no look at all the DIYers there's so many the risk is too great blah blah".

Simon.

[Tony Bryer]

The impression I get is that CORGI members believe in it whilst also hating it for its empire-building tendencies. The latest PHAM News has as its main story that NAPIT (National Association of Professional Inspectors and Testers) is applying to HSE to become an alternative body for gas safety and one of its non-execs is a former CORGI CEO.

The MD of CORGI says "it is highly likely that multiple schemes will result in an increase in deaths from CO poisoning". MRD again

[Tony Bryer]

And if he does Landlord Safety Checks he's probably seen more than a few 'professional' ones that does meet the mark - Ed?

[Guy King]

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Wonder what they base that on.

[Doctor Drivel]

CORGI is NOT a gas safety body. It is a "registration authority". It registers operatives to work on gas when they meet a criteria. The only safety body is HSE.

Corgi members believe that Corgi:

1. Writes the gas safety standards
2. Writes the gas regulations
3. Is the ultimate authority on gas installations
4. Is the ultimate authority on gas safety

It is none of the above.

[dom]

the place, but I didn't realise it had a specific name.

[.]

agreed, but they are striving to get control of all of the above ;-)

[Guy King]

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But wait, there's more....

[.]

only if there's a convenient rabbit or a pope with which to wipe afterwards :)

[Matt]

Do bears shit in the woods?

:)

[gort]

Lies and dammed lies

Make it Part P !!

Dave

[Lobster]

Or better yet, any duff job he sees will be assumed to be down to a DIY-er rather than an incompetent pro.

David

[Steve Walker]

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And how many do you do? There's a few in there I probably /don't/ do - and that's all I'm saying.