Hello All
Can someone let me know how much I would expect to pay for just over 1 metre squared of 4mm glass for some sash windows and the labour to reglaze?
Also anyone have any idea how much 7mm audio screen glass would be in the same size as above?
Cheers
Richard
Labour would cost much more than the glass and not necessarily related to the area - there are many other variables. What is audio screen glass? Phone a glass supplier for a price.
Im wanting to know the cost now, I know I can ring a supplier up.
Not sure about the audio screen buts is 7mm thick and supposed to aid in sound proofing.
I'm trying to determine if the cost I have been charged for some windows is fair or not...........
Cheers
Richard
It's all about labour. Ask the same supplier for prices on 10 full sheets, and the per-square-meter price will be dramatically lower. Plus, of course there is wastage when cut, as only a given number of windows can be cut out of a sheet - and they'll rarely have no waste.
Locally (Colchester) 4mm float glass is around £16/sq m.
Slurp
Glass is charged per sq. m. as supplied to the customer. Its up to the glass cutter as to how much waste he produces.
You need to add the 'energy tax' to the bill as well, which if I remember is around 50p/m for 4mm float.
Slurp
Within the last two years I replaced three panes in the metal edged sliding units of one of our basement windows with a total area of two by eight feet = sixteen sq. feet or approx, 1.5 sq. metres. The glass company cut the (AFIK it was regular 4mm etc.) glass to the sizes needed measuring from the broken units then threw that old glass away. I picked up the glass panes and reassembled them into the metal edged sliders using the existing materaial. All told took me a couple of hours including picking up the glass and bringing it home. Total cost, including the cutting to size, IIRC was $36 (36 dollars Canadian including our sales tax) or roughly 16 quid. Glass is said to be somewaht expensive here; some 1500+ miles from the main population centres of North America! Transportation cost is a factor in everything we do, particularly housing/construction, especially since trucking involves an eight hour ferry connection in good weather with mainland Canada or every five day container ship from Montreal. Glass is also heavy.
All the now 35 year old windows in our house, comprise two sets of sliders each with single glass. In other words a typical window comprises two aluminium edged outer sliders and two inner sliders, in aluminium tracks, all set into a wooden (cedar or redwood) window box/frame built into the wood frame wall of the house. Half of full window size insect screens were included. These can also slide so as to be left or right; the only undesirable feature of which is that they mount on the outside edge of the outer tacks, meaning that they have to be removed (very easy job done from inside though) and stored each winter lest they get full of snow/ice. By contrast some other manufacturers windows 'store' the screens between the two sets of sliders.
Although this sounds cumbersome and not as tidy compared to, say, the 'sealed twindow' double glass unit 'picture window' as we have in our biggest four by eight foot main room window, these windows have worked out very well in this climate which is similar to but colder than the UK. The windows were manufactured locally from standard materials. Even in winter one set of sliders can be removed and or interchanged with the other set and/or cleaned flat on a table in a few minutes from inside the house; although as a one storey bungalow all 46 glass sliders (22 panes in basement and 24 panes main floor) windows are also accessible from outside.
The maximum any of our windows can be opened is to about half it's area. Or the two sets of sliders can be removed. this makes it very convenient for putting stuff through a window; planks, firewood chunks and or sheets of plywood etc. in/out the basement and furniture etc. a bedroom .
And you know you should have done so prior to getting the job done too, now too.
This sounds very much like you have misunderstood the sales patter. Would this be a sandwich of two panes with a IMM plastic safety bonding layer?
Would these be sliding sashes in a box window? If so do they still run properly?
If it was sound insulation you wanted, double glazed units would have been ideal, too heavy for unmodified sliders, I think.
Why not tell us what you were charged, what your needs were and what service you had expected for the money.
A location might be useful too.
I'm renovating my sash windows, which have had 7mm thick glass put in for soundproofing (presumably). Can't tell you how much they cost, but I can tell you that they weight a lot, which will affect the windows and sash weights balancing.
Mark
I think that the OP has discussed noise reduction with the sales person at some time.
A sealed unit composed of different glass thicknesses on either side of the air gap is a common method of noise reduction.
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The job hasn't been done yet
No sales patter, he is a joiner that I have been having my sash windows made by for a year or so now. He makes the ones that are past help and I restore the others. I have just been wondering to myself lately if the price he has been charging is OTT or not. He specialises in making windows and supplies a major sash window company.
Yes they will do when I've fitted them, they will run like a dream like all my other restored ones :) The audio screen ones haven't actually been made yet. For the others that I've had done I use a simple formula to calculate the make weights required for these 4mm glass was used.
I want identical copies for the new windows and the double glazed options I have seen are not identical.
One bottom sash plus a top sash copy of original, a single glazing bar on each. pile carrier installed on the mid rail, each sash is about 100 cm x 80. Primed, no staff or parting bead, plus 7mm glass, he called it audio screen and I've heard this before. He is also making some adjustments to the rebate, not sure exactly in what way but its so the window can take 7mm glass.
Cost for 1 window (2 sashes) =A3600 + VAT
Does this sound reaonable? I have been paying in the past without questioning it but now the budget is running low for the rest of the renovations I'm needing to save some cash.
the joiner is miles from me, Nr Farnborough.
Cheers
Richard
In article , Ziggur writes
quite something aaand with only an 8mm gap. Hopefully the laminated is on the inside which would be a security enhancement but that may mean no low-E.
Hi Have you considered going to the major supplier that your joiner makes windows for and comparing what they charge and what he is charging you? Otherwise google for 7mm glas. BTW what are the complete specs per window. Is it just the sashes you are having remade?
Pilkington K (low E) can be toughened or laminated.
Thanks
eh?
'ere, wait a minute, toughened after it's coated?, didn't realise the low-E coating would be that tough.
No. It is a bloody good wage for a site joiner self employed working 6 days.
Why don't you take your next one apart and see how much needs replacing.
What I would do is just shove a couple of stock casements in the box and put a couple of nail-holes for the one I wanted to open as rquired to be supported by pegs as and when.
If he is using plain red pine stock timber and standard mouldings not copying exactly your mouldings (which he has the cutters for, in stock now, anyway) and any other specials, he's no better than the friend of one of the recent posters here who got a boiler replaced for an handsome exchange of shekels considering it was a "foreigner".
Yep!
Check out the "K" benefits on the Pilkington site.
TinyUrl still doesn't work for me
E will be the cheaper option but will check the prices on my next project.
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