Hmmm!

[The3rd Earl Of Derby]

Benjamin Middlethwaite

[mcbrien410]

.........and of course these people are referred to as "Experts" or "Professionals" wheres the average industrial engineer who has probably more actuals "hands on" experience than most is regarded as a blithering idiot and requires legislation to stop him extending a ring main in his own house.

Chris.

[Lobster]

[The3rd Earl Of Derby]

Whats the "yawn" for, its showing people an insight into WHO not to deal with.

-- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

[Andy Hall]

Because it, and very similar ones, have been highlighted widely for at least the last 5 years.

Similar stories are available regarding any of the national (big discount if you sign today) firms offering kitchens, bathrooms, double glazing,....

The lessons are simple and the same:

- don't deal with them in the first place - find a local supplier with a reputation to lose and verifiable references. Clue. If he can do the work quickly, the alarm bells ring.

- pay for most or all of the project using a credit card or loan agreement. Even if the payment is made, the Consumer Credit Act makes the lender jointly and severable liable with the supplier.

- don't pay for all of the job until the project is complete to full satisfaction.

- If necessary, let the supplier threaten legal action for non payment if the work is not satisfactory. THis provides a much better negotiating position.

- Don't waste time with these name and shame games. They don't produce a fast result because the people on the supplier side really couldn't care less. There are two effective methods. 1) Withhold payment and 2) take legal action.

- Always adopt the principle of asking the supplier what they are going to do and obtaining that in writing. Then hold them to it.

Anything else is a waste of time and a distraction.

[gp]

Going back to the OP's site. In the electrics section what is your opinion of the fused spur under the bath? IMO this would be perfectly acceptable providing the bath panel was secured/unsecured with the use of a tool. Oh, and providing the top of the bath was sealed properly so no water could drip down.

Gareth

[Grumpy owd man]

When I was a snotty little apprentice I recall that in a former incarnation they used to only install showers. These were concealed behind a mirror and operated by 2 pull cords. One cord switched the power on via an elcb [can't remember if it was RCD or FVO] the other cord switched the phase to earth and tripped the 'RCD' thus switching off the power to the heater. The heater element was enclosed in a clear perspex block. On one job their 'installation technician' had tapped a supply off the bathroom shaver socket [1.5 mm^2 T&E!!!!] and upped the fuse to 30A!!!! nice job

[Geoffrey]

I cannot believe anyone reading this newsgroup (even simply skimming only through stuff they are interested in) would consider, even for a nanosecond, using Dolphin.

Mind you, I thought that about B*****h G*s (excuse my profanity) as well and I am clearly wrong there...

[zaax]

How are you going to seal a bath and insuring that it will remain sealed for 30 years?

-- zaax

[SimonJ]

Yeah, seems perfectly sensible to have a mains supply on the bathroom floor, I mean, bathroom floors never get wet, do they.......