Local woman demands council resurface her private pavement for free, gratis, as part of highway maintanance:
You can even see on
JGH
Friends sold their house and moved to another one in the same village but left some items for temp. storage in the old garage. New owner wanted the track made up - all ~200m of it - so that she could use it in her wheelchair. She hardly ever went anywhere except by car and also there was a road and footway immediately across the track, about 5m away. Shouldn't have bought the place if she couldn't get in and out, but personal responsibilty is foreign to most people.
Rather like something I saw onTV (?The One Show last night) about cleaning up inHyde Park after a weekend of picnickers (almost a tonne of waste collected). A group of young men was asked about clearing up their rubbish and one replied 'why should we? its what we pay our taxes for'
Malcolm
If you'd followed the whole story, you may have noticed it was as a result of some bright spark having the idea to save on bin emptying at the weekend.
People were binning their stuff but obviously the bins turned into small mountains.
Emptying the damn bins is what people pay taxes for. It's a bad enough battle to get people to use bins at all but if you remove the facility (even temporarily) then expected people visiting London to lug rubbish all over the cities and home is just damn stupid thinking.
Or have we become such a 3rd world country that people think this is reasonable? In which case, the result will be as in some 3rd world countries
- crap everywhere...
If they can lug their picnic kit there they can lug the detritus away.
Messiness seems to vary across the UK - last week, I attended the Sutherland Agricultural Show - I saw perhaps three or four pieces of litter the whole day.
Nappies? yes, been there, done that.
So I ask - why? For the last decades, public council maintained spaces have been provided with bins and people have (mostly) been taught to use them.
You may think taking us back to a lower standard is acceptible. I don;t and refer the honourable gentleman to the inevitable consequence of what will happen, aptly demonstrated in only 1 weekend.
Not unreasonable, but bin emptying /is/ what our taxes are meant to pay for and what sets us apart, as said, from being a third world country.
It's in the same vein as being charged to go to the tip or not being allowed to have a wheelie bin lid slightly overfull: we pay enough bloody money and yet we're treated as if we're throwing away stuff for the sheer fun of it.
Technically (and legally), the only thing you pay taxes for is to stay out of prison. Bins are emptied whether you are rich enough to pay taxes or not. I'm getting really fed up with this culture of "I pay taxes, therefore...." The obvious collary is "you're dirt-shit poor, f**k off, you don't deserve street lights, empty bins, fire engines, armed forces, etc."
JGH
The IRA found them particularly useful in Victoria Station and Bishopsgate
Colin Bignell
I did not of course imply that. However, given that the money everyone on average (and *everyone* pays taxes of some sort, even if it's just VAT) I'm getting fed up with paying money, watching the government waste it on overpaid consultants, wars, and general inefficiency - then being told that things we have taken for granted for the last 50 years are somehow a "luxury" which can be done away with.
And if people accept that, it will just get worse - ie eventually something
*you* care about will stop happening...Incidentely, wasn't in on here the other day that possibly the lack of weekly dustbin emptying may be contributing to excess flies? (Flies breeding cycle being between 1-2 weeks)?
That's why they have clear plastic bag-bins isn't it?
If it hadn't been the bins, they would have found another way I expect - especially easy now that on certain days, London is littered with mounds of black plastic bags awaiting the dustmen. You could put a pretty bloody big bomb in a bin liner and on the righ day, noone would question it...
Personally I would go and throw a load of caltrops on her pavement just in case she gets a wheelchair with pneumatic tyres.
That will teach her:-)
Your taxes pay for my duty solicitor:-)
Just like the wooden forks at a chip shop, they are free to the user.
Which are not free to the user, but are paid for as part of the cost of every purchase, whether you use one or not.
No. They have clear plastic bin bags because a proper bomb-resistant bin costs £30,000.
As always, the security forces have to respond to whatever the bombers did last. We have steel sheet letter boxes because the cast iron ones make excellent shrapnel.
Colin Bignell
No, more people need to take responsibility, clean up their own shit, and be seen to be doing so by their own children and others. That will benefit society, never mind whether it saves taxes or not.
The only people who need weekly bin collections are those living on streets where the front doors open straight onto the pavements and they lack space for two large wheelie bins.
In places where there are bins, that's one thing. On a beach or in the countryside, its another.
Some 55 years ago, we were on a camping holiday in Scotland (effing midges!) and pitched by a waterfall. We did notice a pile of rusty tin cans nearby, but thought nothing of it. A couple of days later, we woke up to see a caravan parked near by. The Glaswegian family made breakfast
- and checked their empty beans tin on the pile. Now we knew where the pile came from.
Ever since then, my motto has been "pack out your trash" [1] - even if that has meant packing it for several days. If there's a bin meant for the purpose, and it has space in it, then use it. Otherwise take it home.
[1] Excuse the septic expression.
in fact, you dont!
I've no problem with any of that, having spent a childood camping :)
Generally, at a beach, you've driven (easy to put a bag of rubbish in the boot) - and even if not, there'll be a bin somewhere on the nearest road.
It's the stupidity of whichever d*****ad decided Hyde Park's bins (in London where 95% have used public transport to get there) didn't need emptying at the weekend - just when it's used to the maximum.
It's a huge park and to keep it tidy you need bins, especially next to ice cream vendors and the like. No-one in their right mind is going to put a gooey icecream wrapper in their pocket for half the day - not unless you like being pestered by wasps.
Re; Nappy - it's OK to carry a mouldy nappy in a bag in the back of a car for a bit but you really do not want to be putting it in your backpack to get squished and if you bring it on my train and stink the carriage out, I will give you an earful!
It just the predicable idiocy of some pea brained manager that came up with this nonsense - it's like watching "Dilbert" in action...
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