GRRRR sparkies...

What if you wanted a ceiling fan / light assembly and wanted independent control of both from the switch plate? ;-)

Is it one of those you have to lift up first to release then lower (so they have probably forced it closed)?

And partly why I do, and I guess many others here, do it themselves? ;-)

But I guess if you want the fancy stuff (like granite worktops) I'm not sure how easy that sort of thing is to diy (if at all, where cutting is required)?

Cheers, T i m

Angle grinder.

The Earth not being connected is bad but, assuming I?ve understood you correctly, having a cable which runs to the rose from the switch rather than the loop in/out arrangement isn?t that unusual.

Again, some oddities but you may find this is better that the traditional method- especially if you want to add smart switches.

Some of our lights have live and neutral at the switch- unfortunately not all of them. Basically the ones which only had wall lights originally.

These will be easy to add smart switches to.

I can see how you could use an angle grinder to cut a worktop to rough length but what about a finishing joint or an exposed sink hole where the sink is fitted underneath?

The only time I've seen a granite worktop being cut was on a large 'wet' CNC router (I helped them set the PC bit up).

Cheers, T i m

I got my reclaimed slate worktop cut by a local monumental mason. A very impressive fixed diamond wheel running in a water trough at the bottom, mounted vertically and at least a couple of metres in diameter.

Send me details and I'll keep an eye out for a replacement cover.

How long ago were these done? I used to know an Electrician who bemoaned the way some customers changed their minds in mid job making everyone confused. Brian

I have a granite table lamp, obviously turned up on a lathe. Just don't drop it on your foot! Brian

lighting ring? usually just a radial. Not unusual to find two lighting circuits fed from a single mcb/fuse.