well I only had to deal with that kind .....
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Grenfell Tower - a visit
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Marxism and its bastard offspring socialism is ultimately a materialist philosophy that can only see value judgemnts in terms of money.
Viz te incessant whining abpout 'capitalists' and 'the rich' and never a hint of jealousy about someone who is 'good looking' or 'happy'
Hence council housing was built to give the greatest material benifit at the lowest cost.
Human feelings didn't come into it.
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Council estates always feature costly measures to look pleasant (if very un inspired). Prescribed bricks rather than brutalist concrete, spaced out hou ses rather than terraces, unnecessarily large lounges etc etc. They are cer tainly not attempts at financial efficiency.
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I well remember one of the first built in Aberdeen post war. Kincorth. Mostly semi detached granite built 'bungalow' style. Looked much the same as private ones on sale elsewhere. Might even have been the same builder.
Of course in the same way as other public buildings - like schools and so on - any estate if not properly maintained can soon look neglected.
Not that far from here in Mitcham is a council estate with factory built houses. Concrete slabs bolted together, and the bolts rot through. Problems with damp from new. But with enormous gardens back and front.
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Yes and this is why BREXIT happened being told that things are getting better when in reality for the majority things are getting worse, it's called austrity I believe although some people have managed to aviod it.
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Social housing as a long term solution is a big mistake and should only be provided as a temporary stop gap.
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London has been abandoned to the foreigners a long time ago.
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Not the 60s tower blocks mate
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What would you do with people after the temporary expires?
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No. They changed from that. But that's hardly news.
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gas chambers obviously. nevvawozzajezza just cant wait...
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yes and when your income rises you should be forced to move on and no right to buy ......
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Let them eat cake?
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Would make more sense to allow those who wanted to stay in what is or was the family home at a market rent. And no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to buy too. But also at the market rate. Provided the council is allowed to use that money for other housing.
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Quite. Some could be moved on once their finances pick up, but doing so wou ld disincentivise them to work. That could be tackled by more basic housing .
Many never see better fortunes. A fair number would either get to stay or b e homeless. It's easy to point fingers with those, but the reality is a per centage of the population does not manage to sort things out, and that leav es the question of how our society wants to treat them. It has decided.
Sadly the attitude TNP shows really does happen in the 3rd world.
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It would seem that's what a lot of Brexiteers want us to become. Not the poor sods who voted out thinking it would improve their lot, of course.
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I don't need to do anything - just like nobody did/gives anything for/to the rest of us. When you give something like a house and/or income (i.e. benefits) for free/very little on a long term basis, you simply encourage them to become needy/lazy/expecting everything on a plate, and for life.
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I am glad you said 'show' rather than 'hold' .
So Germany is a 3rd world country eh?
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People didn't care what they looked like, they were just grateful for an indoor cludgie.
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So you're saying put the rent up. I think that would be a good option but w ould be difficult and adminstratly expensive.
Why should they be allowed to buy which is basically taking a home from poo r.
But why would they want to buy it at the market rate if they are living in a relatively higher end property than they can afford.
If yuo were renting a council property for say £500 a month and then w as toild but you can buy this porperty and it'll cost you £1200 a mont h and in 15-25 years it will be yours what would you do ?
I think they should be allowed to, in fact I think it should be illegal not to.