Being tempted to stockpile a decent quantity of GLS light bulbs (the
ones about to be banned) the thought crosses my mind - do they
deteriorate in storage?
I'm talking about a prolonged time period up to 20 - 30 years (which
should see us out of chez nous into another world). I envisage
storing them in the attic and avoiding movement until needed.
Well I have several boxes of specialised light bulbs (odd voltages)
that I use on machine tools in my workshop, and most are at least 20
years old, and some older. I cannot remember ever pulling one out that
didn't work. These are mainly 24 & 48v bulbs in the same format as
normal mains ones (ie standard bayonet). It may be that the stouter
filament of a lower voltage aids longevity, but I would think that
would only be the case if stored where vibration were a problem.
Exactly. The point is that people realise that they are being
manipulated and forced into something inferior in terms of usability
for no good reason.
Earlier discussions on this subject have been met with comments on both
sides of the debate with some people feeling that the energy saving is
worth it to them (be it for economic or feel-good reasons), while
others feel that aesthetic factors outweigh that.
Until now, both views have been catered for because both types of
product continue to be available.
In general terms, people have not been persuaded about the alleged
benefits of fluorescent lightbulbs or they would have gone out and
bought them and the market dynamics would have moved that way.
Given that situation, the government now attempts to force the issue by
coercing market forces.
People aren't that stupid. They know when they are being had and
subjected to hype.
Its surely a move that indicates people that dont understand the
country theyre running. If CFL mfrs want to take over the bulb
market, let them solve the issues of their CFLs - most of which are
simple to resolve given a bit of awareness and profit incentive.
The power looms represented a quantum leap in performance over hand
I can't put it any better than Huge did in an earlier thread ...
"Electric lighting supplanted gas which supplanted candles/oil lamps
because in each case the new technology was superior to the old. This
is not the case with the banning of filament bulbs, which is being
done for pointless political reasons by someone who neither knows nor
cares about the issues and upon whom the inconvenience and expense of
the change will not fall.
Now, here's your teaspoon. Get bailing".
If it seems trivial to you ask yourself why the government sees fit to
take away our freedom to use whatever lighting we choose.
The reason of course is that they have no choice in the matter. They
have been ordered to do so by Brussels. Philips in particular no
longer make any profit out of incandescent bulbs and have spent a
considerable amount of money "lobbying" EU bureaucrats (who really
cost quite small amounts to buy) to get this change through as they
believe it will open market opportunities for them.
... and here was me thinking that we had just signed up for a glorified
There is always a choice........
It couldn't also be that Philips have supplied bulbs to hand out, could it?
All very convenient.
I replaced all my 50w GU10's with Megaman 11w and they are by far and away
superior.So they don't light up instantly whoopie do..
In no time at all the pressure will be on the manufacturers to solve the
problems you all fear. That's how these things work.
I have no real love for forced democracy but like seatbelts sometimes you
have to think for the masses and tell them what's good for them
I tried one of these - same brand and same product - and thought that
it was crap. Poor light quality and dim. That's before one
considers the warm up time.
I wait with baited breath. They will also have to come up with
something that mechanically fits properly as well.
Except this is good for nobody and for nothing apart from cheap capital
for politicians. It doesn't resolve any particular problem or even
significantly affect one.
I'm sitting under a couple of them as I type. They're whiter, cooler,
generally a good thing. If they're a little slow to start - doesn't
In the downstairs toilet (the room that is!) I have an incandescent. It
comes on effectively immediately, is on for a short time, then off
again. If it breaks through too much power cycling, WTH the replacement
is pence and won't put mercury into landfill.
CFLs do have their place, but so do incandescents.