fixing metal back box in stud wall

[Stephen]

I'm happy to screw through the plasterboard and make good. I will use plasterboard screws so that they will not rust.

Thanks.

[Stephen]

I've wondered why they don't have 20mm cut outs? Perhaps its because they are use for retrofits where you would not be able to insert conduit etc.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Oh - and depending on make, you might find boxes with the correct holes already drilled. Use small woodscrews to minimise the chances of the battens splitting. No6 are usually fine.

[ARW]

Cheers. Seems they are specific for DETA flat plate accessories.

[charles]

Don't see why they can't accept any double outlet. The hole centres are correct and the locking lugs look quite normal.

[ARW]

"Specific in making the DETA flatplate accessory look like its flush to the wall when using a DETA dry liner" would be a better term

Sure it will also allow the use of any double socket.

Flat plate accessories usually have a gasket - and I suspect that the DETA gasket is cut/shaped to fit the DETA dry liner box and allow the DETA faceplate (with matching gasket) to fit closer to the wall.

Flatplate and dryliners not not mix well. However bog standard white MEM faceplates do cover dry liner boxes - a pity that their sockets "look odd" as the holes are lower down than other manufacturers.

Cheers

[Tim Watts]

It looks pretty - but I'm not quite sure how it wins over a normal dry liner. It still has those 8 lugs - is it really less wide/tall?

[Andy Burns]

I assume the backbox is specifically designed so the 8 lugs are concealed in recesses in the DETA frontplates? They might "work" with normal accessory plates, but wouldn't you end up with gaps between the pads, which would be more noticeable than the 1mm rim on modern dryliner boxes?

[Andy Burns]

The DETA "flatplate" catalogue only shows one rear picture (page 49)

It doesn't seem to have 8 individual recesses, but apparently a trough all the way round the edge, with a rubber gasket, maybe Adam can confirm if the pads simply get buried in the gasket?

[ARW]

That is my understanding. However I seldom fit DETA. I fit Scolmore (OK I also fit a lot of MK as schools and hospital spec MK).

And I hate flat plate:-)

[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo , Dave Plowman (News) escribió:

Nonsense.

If you use, e.g. a squared corner dry lining box with a device with rounded edges, yes, it'll stick out like a sore thumb. But if you take the trouble to match like-for-like, the edges of the box are invisible.

There are several makes and types of dry-lining box available. It's worth trying the device with a few different boxes to get a good match if it matters to you that much.

I've installed several sockets using a dry lining box. You can't tell the box is there.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

So there are dry lining boxes available for every single make of socket?

And if you are using a metal plate fitting, you get a matching metal dry lining box?

I could.

[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo , Dave Plowman (News) escribió:

You appear to be exceptionally anally retentive, even by the standards of usenet.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

No, just have certain standards.

You might be perfectly happy with those bodge boxes designed for a cheap and cheerful job.

Others may not be.

[ARW]

I could tell.

OK for a rented porperty in Goldthorpe - no use for a million pound house in Totley.

[Windmill]

One thing that makes a metal back box fairly secure is to attach a piece of wood, or another, inverted, 'spacer' back box of suitable thickness to the stone or brick wall behind a plastered wall using wallplugs, then screw the back box to that spacer.

Assuming that there is a stone or brick wall behind the plaster, of course.

[Andy Burns]

That would be a rather unusual stud wall ...

[charles]

It depends on what you mean my a stud wall. Quite often battens are nailed to a solid wall with Plaster board on top. This fooled me when I was "modernising" my daughter's flat some years ago.

[Andy Burns]

I would call that a dry-liner.

[Windmill]

Lot of unusual things in old Edinburgh flats.

But I was thinking more of lath and plaster walls than drywall.