How do you go about finding a gas fitter who is willing to install a
condensing boiler? (Not in the true spirit of DIY, I know, but I've read
the installation manual and the gas side looks a bit too complicated to
After much looking around I think the Keston Celsius25 would be good for
what we want, but I've had 4 "central heating engineers" come round now,
from a variety of big and small organisations, when I tell them what I
want to do they all suck air through their teeth and try to persuade me
to get a cheap combi. They then come out with a stream of bizarre
reasoning - Kestons don't like microbore, condensing boilers are a waste
of money, Kestons don't work with normal control systems because of
voltage leaks, it'll be broken in 10 years anyway so you may as well get
a cheap one....
I'm in Hull, there must be someone in the east riding of Yorkshire who
knows about these things and won't run scared?
Firstly, I would ring Keston and tell them exactly this.
They may have some suggestions.
You might be able to get a gas installer to install the pipework
of appropriate size and connect it up to the boiler, but not
commission it. You can then get Keston to come and commission it;
they charge £120, but I don't know if they have coverage of
the whole country. Also, they might arrive and then not be
satisfied with the installation. I don't think they will do the
installation, but you could try asking - they may have a
subcontractor who will.
Something else you could try is asking a stockist of Keston
boilers near you who might fit them -- they might be able to
tell you based on which of their customers buys them.
Your tale exactly matches what I reported here a few weeks ago,
which was a conversation I had with several gas fitters at a
trade desk. This isn't just a problem with Kestons -- it applies
to condensing boilers generally. When I spoke to several of the
manufacturers, a couple commented that most condensing boilers
installed for domestic use are DIY installed.
OK, I've rung Keston, they seemed somewhat amazed by this story ("any
corgi-registered plumber should be able to fit one!") and suggested I
try ringing local plumbers merchants to see if they have any known
Keston installers. Unfortunately only Plumb Centre had heard of Keston
(this is after all the heartland of Ideal Boilers) and they had no
recorded sales of any. So I think I am back to trawling the yellow
pages. Maybe I should come up with a good opening line to weed out the
"Hello, can you name 2 Keston products?"
"Can you tell me 3 features of a condensing boiler."
Every time I go to the local scrapyard ,there are always numerous condensing
boilers being dumped by local plumbers.I managed to ask one why ,he replied
that they are to expensive and appear to be not durable enough for the task
corrsion in the heat exchanger a major culprit.
1) I'm in the process of fitting a Keston C.25 in my home.
2) I beleive the OP is very much in the area for "John
That adddress may well need some tweaking to work?
He will certainly know how to fit one and not come up with pathetic
nonsense as an excuse.
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at www.diyfaq.org.uk
Thanks for the recco Ed but I'm up to November with bookings at the moment.
I would however say that I don't hear much criticism of Kestons (no news is
good news) BUT if we are talking about a combi version, Hull has the same
water supply as that in my locality which is bloody hard stuff. So much so
that I refuse to fit standard immersion heater replacements and go for
Aqualoy or similar. Scaling of the secondary heat exchanger will be
included in the kit round here.
If the OP is looking for a straight boiler with an existing stored hot
water system then I suggest he tries speaking to Advanced Heating Spares in
Sutton Fields Ind Estate in Hull and asks them for a few local quality
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Yep it just a normal boiler with HW cylinder not a combi. I'm currently
sitting in my office in Sutton Fields ind Estate so I will contact the
people you suggest who as it turns out are just round the corner.
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