Dual WAN router

Delivery is normally either 5 or 7.5 +vat depending on weight. I would guess 5 in this case.

Indeed, there is not much to it - just a bit of asymmetric angle with a cutout in the short edge.

So long as the "dongle" or whatever 3G device has a reverse SMA connector or similar then you can put the aerial where its best suited and cable that back to the device.

299 even! - still it can do 100 concurrent VPN sessions and other stuff

- so its fairly "serious"...

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John Rumm
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Not sure which is worse, 30 m max USB (using 6 x 5 m active USB leads), or the RF losses in tiddly thin coax that is required to fit SMA type connectors. Much better to plug dongle into TL-MR2030 and place on appropiate window cill and run CAT5 back to the router. A short, passive, USB could enable dongle to be put at the top of the window if that gives a better signal.

470 has no console port either (at least not on a user accesable socket, wouldn't be surprised to find one inside...). Checked the manuals page by page for the features common between the two they are identical.

Amazon have 'em for £28.76 inc delivered and the reviews are good.

Way OTT for here, I've yet to venture into VPN land...

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Dave Liquorice

Hum, there's a point have HP Microserver with spare slot but don't think the "out of the box" server distro I use can handle 2 WANs. It's a not uncommon requirement so someone will have played already...

Agree, there are about 16 13A sockets in use under this table, OK one is a desk lamp but the majority are all for various bits of IT kit.

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Dave Liquorice

CAT5 would be best for long runs, but a few metres of coax is not a problem (you don't run the skinny stuff at distance, but use a short length of it as "pigtail" get you onto a decent sized co-ax)

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John Rumm

Something like this?:

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I suppose it was obvious, but to actually see it happening is a reality check (for me).

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RJH

Why would you want 100 concurrent VPN sessions.

Surely how fast it can do one VPN connection is the relevant question for anyone with a fast connection.

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Nick

I use pfSense too. I've successfully used various hardware (including a virtual machine). I'm currently using a ZBOX-CI323NANO, very small and low power, but not very powerful.

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Nick

If the router was in an office with lots of road-warriors using VPN.

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Andy Burns

Even with a 100 road-warriors you would want to know the speed for one connection before you divided it by 100.

But yes Drayteks might be ok for multiple email sessions from road warriors not so good for someone wishing to run a home high speed openvpn tunnel.

They might cost more than other routers but I suspect the hardware is basically the same a home router half the price. Given that you could load tomato (or such like) on the cheaper router why bother with Draytek?

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Nick

The maximum number of concurrent VPN connections is often more to do with the resources to maintain the number of security associations, and perform the periodic rekeying, than it is to do with the performance of a single VPN connection.

For IPsec VPNs, the AES encryption will often be done in hardware, and even if it's not, many modern CPUs can do an AES round in a single instruction. By contrast, the diffie hellman calculation is normally not performed in hardware; and if you've got a lot of tunnels with PFS turned on you end up doing a lot of rekeying.

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Caecilius

In a business setting you may want concurrent links to multiple offices, along with remote access for staff.

Its part of the equation, but running a VPN endpoint (rather than just allowing for VPN traffic passthough) requires a certain amount of computational grunt from the equipment to run the encryption. Lower end VPN capable routers may do this entirely in software, and hence they have fairly low limits on both the number of connections as well as the thoughput of any single connection (over and above that of the raw link speed available). Better routers will have dedicated hardware for offloading the encryption to.

So in a nutshell, the number of VPN sessions it can handle at once is an indication of the overall performance of the router. In this case I was just illustrating to Dave that although the router would do what he wanted, it was way over specced for the actual load he was going to put on it.

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John Rumm

Er, no. Try the other end of the housing scale. This was (privately run) housing for, otherwise, homeless young adults. With the aim to get them back onto the "right road", not that she was off it.

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Dave Liquorice

Draytek. My 2920n does all you want but with wifi (the n bit of the model number)

2925 seems to be it's successor.

I still run a 2910vg in the shop with 2 x ADSL2 connections. It's a bit dated with regards to throughput but with Exchange Only lines I'm can't get fibre speeds anyway so it's not an issue.

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0345.86.86.888

Not an answer for upthread, but that is similar to this

More units, less zoning? SF microapartments avoid "NIMByism"

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Student halls of accommodation forever until someone has a kid ...

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Adrian Caspersz

Next step, Foxconn style dormitories ...

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Andy Burns

But it's GiffGaff, so O2 and O2 are only 2G here...

I'm on a "next size down" 30 day rolling contract. Last couple of months the over texting has pretty much put the bill up to the next level but normally it'll be "saving" £4/month.

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Dave Liquorice

Yup, I realise its not going to be much use for you as I said in a previous post. Just wanted to clarify how some of these "30 day" deals work.

Yup, with mine I often use the included 100 MB and then pay for an extra

100 at 2p/meg, but its still cheaper to pay 5 + 2, rather than the 7.50 next size up.
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John Rumm

Good grief someone who uses less mobile data than me! I'm on 100 mins

100 text 500 MB. Mins are less than 20, Data, if I try, might get to 300 MB. Texts are normaly less than 100, "extra" ones are 10p but with the next bundle up £4 more, that's 40 "extra" texts before I start "losing" money.

IIRC I've done the maths on going pure PAYG and it wasn't economic but that was a while ago perhaps I ought to revisit that spreadsheet.

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Dave Liquorice

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