|Owain mentioned dowsing on the Drain flies thread. I've never heard of drain
|But has anyone here done dowsing?
Yes long ago, Very strange things happened, but I was unable to produce
consistent and repeatable results :-(
Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> Google Groups is IME the *worst*
method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a
Yes. Dead easy. Get two straight pieces of wire coat hanger and bend
the ends down at right angles for about three inches. Hold the
bent-down ends vertically in the centre of each hand that you 'make a
fist'. do this losely so the rods are free to swing. ( you can cut two
pieces of broomstick about 4" long and drill loose holes for the wires
down the centre and hold these in your fists) With the straight ends of
the wire pointing away from you and your arms fully extended start
walking in the desired direction. When you cross a water pipe/drain etc
the two rods will start swinging and will cross each other at the point
The other week there were two guys in our street trying to trace an oil
pipe with hi tech equipment. No deal. I got my rods out and showed them
how to dowse. They got it bang on. They were a bit bemused and I had an
enigmatic smile on my face.
There was a brief discussion yesterday on BBC R4, 3.45pm, In Drover's
Boots; seems to be on the web:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/atoz/index.shtml#i . The interviewee is
vice-president or something of the UK Dowsing Assoc. Reckons that there
is no point in a scientific explanation.
There isn't. We don't need a scientific explanation for how concrete sets or
why water doesn't run uphill, we accept it. the explanation might be
interesting ut isn't essential to the working of the system.
How many of us know exactly how all parts of our bodies work?
The reason why we accept that concrete sets without a scientific
explanation is because it can be demonstrated.
Since dowsing cannot be demonstrated, there can be no kind of
explanation, scientific or otherwise. It doesn't work.
I was a complete sceptic until I tried it. Until then, I believed it
We were starting work on a site that had been covered with brick
hardcore and scalpings (quarry waste) and there was no sign of any
services. After 5 minutes' tuition I managed to locate two
electricity cables, a water main and two sets of telephone ducts
within an hour and a half. The locations were extremely accurate,
within half a metre or less.
I have never managed to use dowsing to locate water, which I think is
where most of the doubts arise. But it is remarkably effective, even
in the hands of a sceptic like me, for locating underground services.
I have used it many times since and it has never let me down. But
that's probably because I work well within its limitations.
I bet if you did a proper double-blind test it wouldn't work. In fact
there is already such a bet available, I think you can win $1000000 if
you can show that you really can dowse. James Randi has had an offer
of this amount outstanding for many years and no one has won it.
Is it worth a bit of your time for $100000?
Mary Fisher wrote:
> We don't need a scientific explanation for how concrete sets or
> why water doesn't run uphill, we accept it. the explanation might be
> interesting ut isn't essential to the working of the system.
> How many of us know exactly how all parts of our bodies work?
<ahem> a contemporary of mine did a PhD on how concrete sets: I believe
his results had an impact on the industry.
C'mon, Mary, keep up. He was mentioned in both the earlier threads on
Dowsing (one of which you started). OTOH considering the huge number of
silly posts, you might have got tired of reading, and who can blame you.
There might be a point if the experiment could actually be done, but I
suspect it can't (since "doing an experiment" entails a specific
mind-set which is likely to be inimical to whatever-it-is that achieves
dowsing (if it does)).
Douglas de Lacey
Sorry for unfinished post, my personal person from Porlock interrupted ...
As I said, that's one. But we all accept that concrete does set without
thinking about it. Well, some of us might think we know, I used to, but it's
always more complicated and less easily proved than we think.
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