downstairs shower for elderly

Elderly parents may need to abandon the stairs. We have a good sized downstairs utility and boiler room so removing some storage and installing a sink and shower shouldn't be too hard. I am wary of getting specialists in who will mark everything up x2 at least and thinking of specifying the requirements and hardware (enclosure, taps etc) and supervising trades myself.
Where would i look to see what is available for any kind of special sanitary equipment for the elderly, and where I could get it at a decent trade price?
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Have you thought about a second hand stairlift? Brian
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On 20/04/18 14:32, Brian Gaff wrote:

Yes, and it's a good thought, although it's a cottage (albeit a new staircase in an old cottage) and could be complicated by beams, old, walls etc. TW
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TimW formulated on Saturday :

There are models of stairlift which will fix the rail on walls, or onto the stairs. If there are no bends in the stair, installation is very easy.
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On 21/04/18 09:46, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Ta. This merits further research. TW
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Second-hand stairlifts are cheap because there are lots around.
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on 21/04/2018, Andrew Gabriel supposed :

They are also robustly built and get little usage before they are pulled out. There are companies who buy and 'refurbish', but they pay not much more than their scrap value for them.
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 22:28:11 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

I'm less interested in what such companies pay for their stock than I am in what they charge.
Stairlifts - unless you are paying $$$$$ require that a person in a wheelchair transfer to use them (and there's a corresponding free wheelchair at the other end of the destination).
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Jethro_uk submitted this idea :

They are mostly helpful for those with some mobility, but who might struggle with stairs.
Rather than sourcing from a 'refurb' company, take look on ebay from private sellers. There are always plenty on there, people find they no longer need them or move into a house with one fitted and remove it - they fetch very little money, compared to original cost.
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 10:41:11 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

We were contemplating a move, a few years ago, and briefly considered a new-build house + stairlift as a solution.
Then we actually saw some new builds and changed our mind. Christ they're shit. Really shit. Although my USian brother who came with us (very much for amusement) did like the unheated outdoor storage units. We let the sales person explain to him they're "garages".
We'll keep our bungalow, thanks. 1,500 sq. foot for us, as opposed to 1,100 or less sq. ft. in a house.
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 10:41:11 +0100, Harry Bloomfield

Probably have to pay for new tubes, battery charging system etc. A new battery for an Otolift costs £70. A complete Otolift system with one bend costs up to £4,000.
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wrote:

Not all stair lift users use wheel chairs. I don't.
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 15:07:40 +0200, Martin wrote:

I didn't say they did.
But if your plan to make a house more accessible is predicated on fitting a stairlift, then be prepared for such plans to turn to shit if the person (s) involved then can't transfer to use a stairlift. Which is exactly what happened to a couple of people SWMBO knows through support groups.
In the OPs case, rather than fitting a stairlift *and* accessible bathroom, there may be more sense in working on a downstairs solution from the get-go ?????
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wrote:

OK they are sold to people like who don;t need a wheel chair. In my case the local authority gave me one.

and having done that how to they get to an upstairs bedroom.
Might be better to sell the house and buy a bungalow.
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 17:45:44 +0200, Martin wrote:

I didn't want to be too blunt, but don't is not a synonym for never ... especially in humans that don't get put down as disability progresses (or indeed appears from nowhere).

Which was where my point was starting from :)
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wrote:

I have post polio syndrome. It reappeared from nowhere about 25 years ago :-)
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I think the main choice is between Dutch OTOLIFT and German THYSSEN KRUPP I recommend the Dutch make had mine for more than 5 years without any problems. I'm no light weight.
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On 21/04/2018 09:49, TimW wrote:

My mother had one fitted she's got 2 steps up from the hall followed by 180 degree return up the main stairs then another 180 degree return via 1 step to the landing. The unit is "free standing" and is screwed directly into stairs (through stair carpet) and floor so no wall or banister attachments. The local company came along, measured up then had about 4 weeks wait for the track/rails to be custom made. Cost around about £4k and works brilliantly.
Next step was to then change upstairs bathroom into a full wet-room so no shower trays etc. Also prolonging Mums ability to stay at home, and every week at home is £1k out of the pockets of the local care home.
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 09:46:22 +0100, Harry Bloomfield

Even with bends the installation is easy and quick.
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My stair lift is bolted to the steps. It replaced the old hand rail.
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