On Saturday, June 7, 2014 10:11:28 AM UTC+1, fixer wrote:
Most people are satisfied with their drills, so I'm not sure how useful ind
ividual brand recommendations are. Its hard to really go wrong, unless you
get something bottom end.
One thing not often mentioned: the good brands use metal gears and large mo
tors, making them heavy. I rejected a dewalt and picked a cheaper brand bec
ause of this, tiredness is a factor in my work.
I was amused by a sign in Aldi offering 14.4v cordless drills the other day
for £15. God knows what they're like. Their other stuff seems adequat
e, but I cant imagine you'd get anything cordless & ok at that price.
On 07/06/2014 23:45, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Its a fair point for casual users of one tool. For those that have used
many different ones you can read somewhat more into anecdotal reports.
For example, I was "satisfied" with my first cordless - a 7.2V Richmond
two speed drill from Argos. It gave me freedom from a cord, and a decent
screwdriving and removing capability I had not had prior to that (my
mains drill had no reverse for example) it was light and easy to use.
Looking back however I would not want to go back to it as my only drill.
It had a single battery, and a 15 hour charger, no hammer action. The
gears were plastic (it still has a click each rotation in one gear where
it shed a cog tooth as a spade bit jammed).
My next was a B&D Proline 9.6V one. Variable speed with reverse and twin
speed, metal gears etc, and a 1hr charger with spare batt. A far more
competent and useful tool. Much better quality feel, and battery life,
far more useful torque etc. It was great for many tasks but struggled
with 4" screws into softwood and its hammer action was quite feeble.
However I never use it these days since its batteries are now knackered,
and it in reality it pales into insignificance compared to my Makita 18V
combi, that runs rings round it in every conceivable way.
Having used the Makita it puts the earlier tools (and all those I have
used since that belong to friends etc) very much into perspective - they
are a world apart. (and to be fair there is a quite a gulf between the
low end Makitas with 1.3Ah NiCd and the Marathon motored posher versions).
Yup that is true - although my 18V Makita is quite heavy, its well
balanced and smaller than a mains drill. I find that its my go to tool
for all jobs except those that need the SDS. While I have several
"normal" corded mains drills, they never get used these days. I am
however tempted to add a 10.8V Li-Ion drill/driver and ID kit to my
setup for when doing lighter assembly work and the smaller lighter tool
would be welcome.
The tool may be usable - but the batteries are going to be crap. Someone
bought be a B&Q cordless jigsaw once - probably at a similar price
point. One 24" cut in 1/2" ply was about its limit on a full charge
(with the speed falling off contentiously through the cut!), after that
is was a 15 hour wait for a recharge on the bundled toy charger.
On Sunday, June 8, 2014 2:41:11 PM UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
My first experience with power screwing was with bits in a mains drill. I w
as really grateful for the work it saved me. Then the silverline 9.6v with
2 batteries was just luxury. Funny how things change.
gawd. I got a cheap cordless circular for cutting things down to get them h
ome, its nothing like that bad.
On 08/06/2014 22:50, email@example.com wrote:
Yup same here... I had bought an impact driver (the clomp it with a
hammer mechanical version - not the modern take), which I very rarely
found a use for, however I did work out I could stick the bits in the
end of Mum's B&D in low gear ;-)
I should hope not - that jigsaw was comically bad! I did not expect it
to be particularly good, but I did expect it to actually be ussable...
On 07/06/2014 23:45, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I have one - sort of fine as a casual wood drill and screwdriver, and I
use it a lot. The battery is a bit of a pain (Holding charge and takes a
while to charge), and the chuck sometimes needs a second go to get the
bit centre, but fine.
To the OP - I'd probably be looking at a hammer in my next cordless.
Having used a 14V (£200!) Bosch recently. By no means heavy duty - but
it does 6mm into masonry very nicely.
Noticed in B&Q earlier a kit that looked to be a decent deal.
Pretty sure it was:
but with an impact driver as well. Something like 170 quid IIRC.
Didn't pay much attention at the time but might be worth a look for the OP?
I find once you get up to the 14V and above tools, the hammer can be
quite effective (especially with a Bosch MM drill bit).
I remember being quite surprised finding that I could drill the render
on my last place with my 18V cordless, and a MM drill bit with relative
ease, even though in the past I had given up on trying to use "normal"
hammer drills on it, since it seemed to be totally impervious to them.
(Bosch mains drill, normal 5mm masonry bit - 15 mins per hole!)
On Monday, June 9, 2014 10:04:33 AM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
y - but
The uspide of hammer is just that you've got it built in to the tool you've
got with you, when you didnt take the sds. So if youre only working on you
r own home, not overly useful, but otherwise it is.
Also masonry bits used without hammering sometimes suffer a short life. Ham
mer extends their life as well as speeding the job up.
On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 17:21:30 +0000 (UTC), email@example.com
<snip> >Noticed in B&Q earlier a kit that looked to be a decent deal.
Makita 18V Lithium-ion Combi Drill with 2 Batteries
I also am interested in this exact model - - it seems good for the
£102 price. Has anyone got the same model? Any comments on it?
Is it OK as screwdriver as well?
/ I also am interested in this exact model - - it seems good for the ?
?102 price. Has anyone got the same model? Any comments on it? /Q
Batteries are not interchangeable with other Makita cordless tools. Check o
ut the charge time also... Istr it was long....
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