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[charles]

Then how does anyone know they area charity - by just saying so?

[bert]

Don't think it makes it impossible - just more tedious to complete the forms - but it is a while since I last applied to the Lottery.

[bert]

In article , charles writes

The term is "Registered Charity" For further explanation have a look at the CC website. Registered charities do not necessarily go round giving things to poor people,

[tabbypurr]

that and showing the work they do. It only applies to under 5k pa income organisations though.

NT

[Martin Brown]

You can *apply* to the Lottery for funds but if you are a Charity and

*haven't* files accounts for several years prior to the application they would be negligent if they gave you any money as a result.

This obviously doesn't apply to Kids Company where it seems Minsters and civil servants knew the whole edifice was was about to collapse but gave them another £3M anyway. It helps to have friends in high places.

[Martin Brown]

It is a relatively new feature. There are plenty of pre-existing charities with turnovers that are under £5k although these days a high proportion of village halls are in the range of turnover £10-25k. I doubt if any could subsist on under £5k annual turnover. The buildings insurance, maintenance and utility bills for a typical village hall are already in that ballpark even before you try to do anything else.

It is dodgy allowing people to just claim to be a charity with no checking or registration whatsoever. It will doubtless cause problems. (that is however what they have done)

[tabbypurr]

e organisations though.

It's basically just a class of charity, and I daresay is designed to have s ome positive effects. There are plenty of tiny projects out there that coul d do with collecting goods or funds on a tiny scale, where formal registrat ion etc has been a big hindrance. People just need to understand what this type of organisation is, and donate appropriately. I don't see a big proble m with eg donating shredded paper & food leftovers to an unregistered hamst er home in someone's spare room etc. But I doubt I'd start giving them subs tantial funds. It's not hard to go see what they actually do.

NT

[bert]

To be faire to the civil servants they had formally advised against giving KC any more money but were ignored.

[charles]

do they qualify for a 50% reduction in business rates?