Build a new PC (def DIY)

Nov 09, 2011 105 Replies

If it's in the SAN array, you have no choice - I suspect HDS will not be impressed if I cram a load of non HDS disks in the array :-)

We haven't got any - we just get a quote occasionally for a laugh and to remind ourselves why we haven't got any :-)

Might stick some closer to the blade servers though for VDI - but again, can't go generic for support reasons.

Darren

Is it rented or something?

You need a better support company.

No, they aren't. We own them

Right... you've a lot of experience with enterprise kit have you? Better than the manufacturer of the kit?

Darren

I've used several companies, and I prefer the ones that don't insist on their own parts.

One SSD or one HDD - either would be a single point of failure.

Do you like what you see in it?

How do you do RAID with only one drive?

Personally I partition my drives to allocate logical volumes to particular tasks (system, scratch, data, apps, games etc). They can be shifted between physical drives as needs dictate.

I appreciate that some folks can't hack the concept of a hard drive partition that is not called c: but its not universal.

If they're anything like Sun or EMC they will load custom firmware onto hard disks and/or make the controller reject anything that looks "wrong".

eg EMC Clariion we have uses bog standard Seagate enterprise grade disks, cost about £80-90 (or did last month!) - except they are reformatted with a wierd sector layout and the firmware is buggerated. Cost of disk the machine will actually accept - £800 ish.

Sun pulled a similar stunt, except some people did work out how to take the base disk of the same original manufacturer part number and load Sun firmware, making it a "genuine" Sun disk.

"Lieutenant Scott" is a troll, probably the same one as "Peter Hucker". Please ignore him.

Degnerate case of RAID-0? ;->

They'll be the same people who don't realise that there are other kinds of computer than a PC running Windows?

I was querying whether SSDs ever fail. One of the points of them is reliability

- no moving parts you see.

I'm not telling you what's on it :-P

I meant ONE "drive". I have 2 physical HDDs, which according to the OS are one drive. No messing about working out what to put on which drive.

Too complicated, see above.

Actually mine is called Mirror.

You sound like you're making a variation on a recent mistake Dennis was making. This is not good.

You need to get a clue about corporate IT.

Indeed, they are good, but not perfect. Electronics can fail...

One "volume" or "logical drive" would perhaps be a better term then.

It works well for me.

One of my NAS boxen is called Flubber - SWMBO said you can't call it that, but could not actually come up with a good reason why not ;-)

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Buggerated - good term that, must remember it.

You're the troll. Why do trolls always call everyone else a troll?

And why are you reading my posts if you've killfiled me, is your "newsreader" broken?

It's a broken RAID-0. As often happens with Caviar Blacks.

I am not familiar with Dennis or his mistakes.

I tend to get annoyed with a lot of people in corporate IT. They don't bend the rules enough.

Aren't the chances of failing several orders of magnitude less?

It's a newsgroup post, not a research paper, I couldn't be bothered being precise:-P

Life is too short.

Because flubber is nowhere near like the texture of hard disk platters.

Yeah - when an hour of downtime can cost the company a hundred thousand quid, it tends to encourage caution.

So that's a no then. Thought so.

Cheers,

Darren

To be fair, there were other reasons behind this.

The extra cost included unlimited maint at what ever level the machine was covered at. So you had a small machine and paid a grand a year (say) and then stuck 50 disks on it - no extra charge on the main as it was covered upfront in the price.

Also, Sun fixed the sizes of the disks - if you had a failure they would ensure the replacement was identical size meaning you could just replace without hassle. Identical size, layout, cyl count etc etc.

Of course, now it's all oracle it just the same, except they screw you over on the purchase price, and then still charge for maint on it :-(

Darren

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