Um, how does that work? Surely positioning your router in a central
location with fewest obstructions gives you best wireless coverage.
Having your master socket near that location too is good but doesn't
influence wireless coverage.
The primary limit on your speed is the quality of your DSL line. Depending
on how grotty your exterior line and internal wiring are, having a stub from
the master socket can cause impedance mismatch and/or loss of signal = loss
of DSL speed. Once you have signal into the digital domain at the router,
That means normally the logic is: put the router near the master socket, to
minimise DSL line issues. Wireless comes secondary, because usually fast
wireless (100Mbps) v slow wireless (20Mbps) is less of an effect than
dropping from say 17Mbps to 10Mbps on the DSL speed.
But for the OP, they're getting a new master socket installed so they can
put it anywhere that's convenient. Freed from the constraint of the master
socket, the best place for the router itself is wherever it's best for
wireless. Getting Openreach to locate the master socket next to it
minimises DSL carriage over the OP's wiring, and DSL problems upstream of
the master socket are Openreach's problem not the OP's.
On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 10:13:58 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
There is no relationship between the speed of the WiFi network and
the speed of your internet connection. Devices on WiFi or WiFi and
LAN or LAN only will talk to each other at the LAN speed or the limit
imposed by the WiFi.
Devices talking to the internet will be limited to the speed of the
internet but data passing over the LAN or WiFi will be at those
I have a couple of TP-link powerline plug-in gadgets in the house to
improve wi-fi coverage. (The master one is connected to the router
with an RJ-45 cable; the others are just plugged into power sockets.)
Doesn't seem to be a problem here. There is about 30 m of cable
(Cat5e) from the master socket to the filter for the POTS side. The
filter is at the router.
Remember that if you aren't using POTS you don't need a filter at
Whilst true in theory I find that up to 10m of high quality cable makes
no perceptible difference to noise margin or maximum sync rate. That is
unless you run it parallel to mains wiring or something equally stupid.
My master socket is conveniently located in the loft (thanks BT). I have
a moderate length of cable running to the router downstairs but I have
tried it the other way around running mains into the loft and a short
signal cable - it made not one jot of difference.
Siting the router to get best coverage of the property is ideal.
On Wed, 3 May 2017 10:25:49 +0100, Martin Brown wrote:
Less than 10 m of crap cable here significantly affect the ADSL+ sync
speed. The crap cable was a bit of telephone cable but CCS (Copper
Clad Steel), Replaced with solid copper CAT5e sync speed recovered.
Router, coverage? How does a router have coverage? I guess you mean a
single combined modem/router/switch/access point box. I'd have
seperate AP(*) so you can put it in the best RF location without
(*) A "cable" router/switch/AP may well be cheaper than a pure AP,
just ignore the WAN side.
Let me make sure I have this right: for an OpenReach installation, the
one master socket is the same piece of equipment for the phone and
internet connections (as opposed to the cable set-up I have now)?
It is here. Basically a splitter/filter with ordinary phone on one side -
extended to where you want in the house, and the ADSL side. So usually the
closest socket to the incoming line.
My view is you'll get the best results by siting the router there using
the supplied cable, and cable to any PCs etc using CAT 6. An ordinary
phone type extension cable (with adaptors) to move the router to the best
place for Wi-Fi coverage may pick up interference etc within the house.
My phone line comes in to the cellar. So that's where my master socket and
router are. Very convenient for the CAT 5 wiring to other areas. The
router is sited as high as possible in the cellar, so just above ground
level. Wi-Fi coverage is fine in the house and nearby.
*A backward poet writes inverse.*
Dave Plowman email@example.com London SW
BT will install a master socket. You should be able to get them to put
it where you want. Ideally, the master socket should have a filtered
faceplate to which you can connect your router (or modem + router). The
wiring upstream of the master socket is BT's property and you are not
supposed to interfere with it. Any extension wiring downstream of the
socket should be connected to the faceplate and is your responsibility.
Or search that forum for other similar threads about 'new master socket'
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