Bowing house wall - tie rods?

[Andy Hall]

Is it necessary to be quite so rude??

.andy

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[Grunff]

And I would be worried too - if it wasn't for the big stone porch stuck to the side of it! The porch is about 2m wide, and central to the wall.

I'll let you know what the structural engineer says (next week).

Vague memories...

[Grunff]

I've said it before, and will probably say it again - Eh??

[Grunff]

I'm not a serious flyer - just mess around with a variety of cobbled together machines. I think I may have posted on there a while back about ducted prop helis, something I'm still working on.

[Dave Plowman]

Yup. I'm all in favour of using a pro for any job if needed, but blanket statements like Mcneil's bring out the worst in me. Especially since Grunff had already asked for advice on finding a good pro.

[fred]

In article , Dave Plowman writes

Don't feed the Tro . . . . . ;-)

[Peter Ashby]

yes, and is very sensibly trying to put himself in a position where a cowboy is less able to pull the wool over his eyes. Information is power.

Peter

[Michael Mcneil]

Not really, the pratt is still shepherding the thread like a dolt. If he is the same anal retentive that kept asking advice about electric saws some months back, then I consider my reply quite restrained -albeit unecessary as it will be not so much ignored as treated with abandon.

Nothing wrong with that perhaps. Be a shame to be stuck with him as a customer though.

The prick just wants to write to the group never mind what is said. If he wanted to know anything about such a specialised subject he would have got hold of some books on it by now.

[Grunff]

What the hell are you on about f# The prick just wants to write to the group never mind what is said. If

Rich, very rich indeed!

[BigWallop]

I think someone failed their exam in social studies. I think I've found a candidate for my kill file. Yes !!! The they go. BYE BYE !!!!

[Dave Plowman]

What are you on? Whatever, I'd adjust the dose.

[Bob Eager]

Hmmmm.our house is due to fall down then. Half of the house has joists going one way, and in the rest of the house they're at right angles. Obviously a design fault 100 years ago when it was built...

[Andy Hall]

I notice though, Michael, that you do not contribute very often to the discussions in this NG which is probably fortunate as most of your contributions follow this style.

Part of the value of UK.D-I-Y is that people can feel comfortable in being able to raise issues and ask questions without the fear of being put down even if the points are obvious to others.

We can't be experts in all areas - generally we can contribute usefully in some but may need help in others. Therein lies the value.

I wouldn't worry too much about that, Michael. It's fairly unlikely that you would have or retain any customers for any length of time.

That might be true, although we have a whole range of people who are well qualified on contribute on a spectrum of topics including this one. It's entirely reasonable that somebody can give help in one area and need help in another. This represents a source of information that is as valuable as anything presented in a book.

In general, both newsgroup and literary sources are able to convey information without the need to introduce put downs and rudeness to emphasise a point.

One can only assume that since you find the need to do so, you have little of value to contribute.

.andy

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[BigWallop]

Now it's got me worried too. The joists in this old (100+ years) are all over the place. The builder has taken the shortest route between supporting walls in most cases, so you can imagine, with at least eight internal supporting structures, that none of the rooms have joists that run in same direction.

Yes. Very worrying to find out that floor joists should run parallel with the roofing rafters. :-))

[PoP]

Hear, hear. Well said. Wholly agree with everything you stated!

PoP

[Gnube]

Oh no, I just went and checked, ours are fine, but we're in a terrace, but I can't really easily check all our neighbours to see if they are ok too, I'm thinking if they were wrong then they could fall in on us from either side!

Concerned, Bucks.

Take Care, Gnube {too thick for linux}

[John Rumm]

I am sure I speak for many in this group when I say that I greatly welcome the ongoing advice and input that has been provided by Grunff over the years. He has posted many consistently well though out and polite messages to this group, always ready to help without attempting puff his own ego at the expense of others - an ability that some people could do well to learn from.

You seem to have contributed little of value to this thread while demonstrating a lack of ability to grasp even basic concepts. Why for example do you find it so difficult to understand the value of eliciting the experiences of others, who may have experienced similar situations themselves, is something of great value that you cannot do from simply "reading a book" or asking a "professional"?

[The Natural Philosopher]

Particulraly if you have a pitched roof, I'd say :-)

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[The Natural Philosopher]

Don't feed the troll, unless you enjoy the mess.

[John Rumm]

Couldn't decide if he was a troll or just plain obnoxious...

Either way you are probably right!