well I went on the site, entered my make and model of boiler and it so old it has no grading (but likely to be less that 70% efficient)
But it then requires me to buy from a dealer rather than purchase off the shelf at B&Q etc.....
so I save £ 400 by getting a rebate, but pay £ 2000 to British Gas for the privilege.
Anyone found the work around yet?
Do you have a link to the site you mention?
Thx for that .Where does it say you are required to buy from a dealer ( altho' that is likely to be the case) ...The info seems scant at present .
"Bear in mind nationwide firms may be a little more expensive but often provide comprehensive after sales service and support packages."
Adam
They only seem to have recent-ish models on that site - certainly for Baxi - don't know about others.
Get it from the official source!
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"Summary Your Boiler is a 'G' rated boiler, this has very poor efficiency below
70%, in your case it's 75.1%."Has Dribble had a hand in this site?
For the boiler I removed and replaced with a Grant boiler some years ago, we had the amusing message: "Your boiler is unrated because it's obsolete or very old." and "SAP Seasonal efficiency 70%".
If it wasn't rated, HTF do they know what its efficiency is?
Wouldn't admitting "we don't know what the efficiency is so we scored it at the lowest level" have been more honest?
Not using British Gas would seem to be a good starting point...
David
I think my Kingfisher of at least 25 years vintage and still going reasonably well until a couple of years ago when I dumped it got the same message .
Yes, sorry - I'm sure it had used to be better than that.
I think someone has already drawn your attention to:
which looks like your boiler except that the 4th and 5th digits of the GC# are different. Are you sure that you're quoting the correct number for yours?
The only thing I didn't like about it was that it shows all models initially but if you use the "Refine Search" button it allows fairly sensible filtering of the results. You get get rid of all the crappy combi and/or condesing things for start...
I looked at that entry first, and the difference in numbers sent me off on a protracted search. I am quoting the number from the sheet stuck to the inside of the front flap of the boiler. This Caradon Ideal confuses me as well - the boiler is marked as Stelrad Ideal and Ideal Stelrad are still making boilers. No list seems to contain 'Stelrad' though. Googling Caradon Ideal leads you back to the Ideal website, but the website doesn't seem to talk about Caradon (although the words "Now in 2007," on the About Us page suggest that it hasn't been updated recently).
I emailed snipped-for-privacy@idealboilers.com to ask them about the rating but got:
" Error delivering to enquiries; Cannot store document; database has too many unique field names. Please ask your administrator to compact the database. " So either they have been inundated with enquiries about the scrappage scheme or they aren't really interested in their 'enquiries' mailbox.
Nothing is easy, is it? :-(
Presumably as the registration number is lower than the one quoted it is an earlier model, so should also be 'G' rated. I did manage to Google the number on a spare parts website so the number does seem valid, just not in any of the boiler rating lists.
Ho hum.
Dave R
AIUI, Ideal and Stelrad are just brand names used for various products made by Caradon PLC - so the names may crop up in various combinations. Everest Double Glazing is (or, at least, used to be) part of the same outfit.
boilers and I've a oil fired one. I can't remember quite what I googled as I did it earlier on, but I dug the site that I found excellent out of the browser History :-
Rob
Is Everest stiil going? I thought they went down years ago.
In message , Heliotrope Smith writes
Well they were double glazing a pub in an advert last year
Well, someone is still using the name and logo, 'cos I had a flier through the letter box only a few days ago.
On further investigation, they appear not now to be part of Caradon, though.
I suspect that Caradon has been split up, with different bits being sold to different entities - but with some of them still retaining the name. For example, according to the Kompass Companies database, Caradon Radiators Holdings Ltd appears to be owned by Bandwood Ltd - who, in turn, are owned by ISG Holdings Ltd. The same database says that the shareholders of Caradon Plumbing Solutions Ltd are Ideal Stelrad Ltd.
I'm not sure which of these entities produced the boiler under discussion, but it's not surprising to see the names Caradon, Ideal and Stelrad appearing together in various combinations.
For all I know, the same model may have morphed into something else during its production life - a bit like an Austin Metro becoming a Rover 100!
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